The Bundys vs. the BLM Nazis. It's past time for the governor of Navada to intervene with a little adult supervision.
Why is this impotent, useless piece of GOP trash smiling?
The Washington Free Beacon reports on the "Last Man Standing."
Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.
“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” he said in a statement Tuesday.
“To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately,” he said. “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
Sandoval also said his office has received numerous complaints about the BLM’s conduct, including road closures and “other disturbances.”
Hey, Guv. How about actually using your state police to shield your citizens from another Waco? By the way, these BLM "rangers" are not exactly nice people. See:
"BLM Ranger Uses Excessive Force" from 2010. Or this follow-up article, "Excessive Force" BLM Ranger William Finch Accused of Molesting 11-yr. old.
Or these stories about the victimization of the Boyd family: FBI probing accusations filed against BLM ranger, and "$5.6 million lawsuit filed in dunes case." And after this shocking attack on the Boyds, BLM ranger Ray Leloup was appartly promoted by BLM for his thuggery.
And it's not like the Bundys can expect help from their own local sheriff, Douglas C. Gillespie, who is a member of the same Las Vegas Democrat Party corruption ring that supports Harry Reid. Oath Keepers reports that Gillespie sits on the DHS “Working Group on Countering Violent Extremism” along with the Southern "Poverty" Law Center. No, the Bundys cannot expect any help from that quarter. Indeed, in terms of so-called "law enforcement," the Governor is the only possible help that the Bundys can expect if they do not wish to become the next federally-selected burning-like-a-torch Branch Davidians.
As Carol Bundy observes, “This is just about power of the government,” and she asks, plainively:
“The story is a lot about the cattle, but the bigger story is about our loss of freedom,” Carol Bundy added. “They have come and taken over this whole corner of the county. They’ve taken over policing power, they’ve taken over our freedom, and they’re stealing cattle.” “And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”
Indeed. Why are you Governor, Sandoval?
27 comments:
Contact the Governor and put pressure on him. Otherwise, he's just going to ignore this situation.
Mike provided a link to the Governor's site in the article.
The governor is dickless, and he's proven it by his actions. The only thing that's going to back up is his limo when he leaves the press conference where he confirms that he's a federal government lapdog.
Where are all those sunshine patriots? All those who keep saying no more Wacos? Who will draw a line in the sand and dare the feds to cross it? Who will go stand with the Bundys? You might have to parachute in as the feds have the roads blocked.
Send in Sheriff Richard Mack.
He'll tell them who has authority.
cattle ranchers running their herds willy-nilly over "public lands" desertified the grasslands of southwestern New Mexico about a century ago. they socialize the feeding and privatize the profits. as much as I agree to "no free Wacos", it's going to take some convincing to prove to me that this guy shouting about "freedom" isn't just a parasite crying about his entitlements.
Save the turtle? Not so much.
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/desert-tortoise-reserve-euthanized/2013/08/26/id/522264/
Well we know the federalization is a forward continuing process ! They have and continue to achieve more and more public lands for there own purposes .Maybe the yellow belly sap sucker meadow sparrow will appear and they will be forced to kick out the land users and it seems to be the case used most often . I have no doubts in the end this cattleman gets screwed but one day people will make that stand and it will be the start of the Second American Revolution . History repeats itself as usual in due time .
The Gov. is so angry over this he took five minutes to issue a strongly worded statement.
If this escalates any further, the Gov. may go balls to the wall with a midday press conference.
Mike, is that misspelling of NEvada in the title deliberate? Am I missing an esoteric insult here?
IF the governor weren't so testicular "challenged" he'd simply send in National Guard troops to disperse the Federal thugs, and arrest them if they failed to leave.
It seems to Barnhardt that one needs to check one's facts before just going off on the government and supporting Bundy.
Check her blog before "jump."
www.barnhardt.biz
"Regarding the cattleman in Nevada: I would strongly discourage you all from hitching your cart to this particular horse. While I have all manner of criticisms of the BLM and certainly of thuggish FEDGOV tactics, it is essential that one pick one’s battles very carefully, and this is NOT a good battle to pick. The guy in question has been grazing his cattle at essentially zero feed cost for upwards of twenty years (well, THAT makes the cattle business easier, doesn’t it!) because he stopped paying the BLM any lease charges. Again, we can debate all manner of things including the ridiculous rules about closing land to grazing in order to “protect” lizards or prairie chickens or whatever the fake “endangered species” du jour is, and certainly we can debate the existence of the BLM itself, but there is no free lunch; everyone else pays to graze. This guy is claiming, as I understand it, some grandfathered right to the land through the Mormon cult (again, BIG red flag), but I don’t buy it. This situation stinks all around to my refined sniffer, and I would NOT die on this hill. Since so many have asked, that is my read. Just be careful with this one."
So the Great Ann B says we should be aware of the Stink.
Well no crap, the question is which thief should we side with.
The Govt thief or the Mormon thief.
The Mormons were there before USam.>
SO if you have to die for thieves. I guess I would choose the B's
IF I find out they are lying I can always kill them later.
At the Least the Biggest Criminal is Dead.
Anne want's us to wait , WHY?
What diff does it make whether the thief is right or wrong.
Destroy Tyranny now , Hang the thieves later..
Great line from Major Dundee.
THE OLD APACHE, says why not to the Sarge.
It's their land all of it.
So what other bureaucratic diktats does Barnhardt support? Oh, she's got 'criticisms' of BLM...yet she supports one of the ways in which they are funded. Does that mean she also supports the clearly unConstitutional and UNAPPORTIONED Federal Income Tax? If someone "failed to pay", I guess she (as a good, little law-abiding sheeple) would advocate murdering the whole family of "tax cheats" too. Is this grazing fee theft so severe that ARMED men should surround their property, steal/confiscate their property and threaten violence and death upon them? Apparently so.
WTF-ever.
The point you're missing AZRich is that the BLM has "zero" authority to close state roads and establish a 1st amendment zone....WTF is that about? This gutless prick of a governor better get off his spotted white ass and take charge of his state and Natl. Guard militia.
If the county had a Constitutional Sheriff he would tell the feds to get the fuck out. That is his job, and other Sheriffs have done just that.
Here's a statement made by the daughter of Cliven Bundy! It will help you get what's going on!
At least it should!
" Words from Shiree Bundy Cox:
I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"
I agree that the feds are "overpowering" in this instance, and their attempts to stifle the first amendment, is enough to make any freedom lover want to puke.
But the Bundy family has picked a bad place to do battle. In a large open area like this one, where they can be surrounded and confined to wooden buildings, in one spot, the government can bring in all the force it wants/needs to handle this situation, and, if the feds don't get their way, the family will be burned alive,just like Chris Dorner was, and the Branch Davidians were. The family has no chance to prevail, in this spot, in any kind of violent physical action, the government holds all the cards at the moment.
Better tactics might be to accept their position at the moment, and defuse this situation with no immediate loss of life.
Then citizens who agree with the family can take action against those who work for government, any way they can, in order to bring pressure upon them to quit their cushy government jobs.
With no "hired thugs" to carry out these tyrannical orders upon citizens, government will lose the war in the long run.
Those who have read that marvelous book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross will recognize this tactic as the one that eventually brought about change.
Anybody daring to engage the forces of government, in a full frontal assault, from a fixed position like the one the family is in, will lose badly. Watch the video of Chris Dorner's death, and the Branch Davidian's final funeral pyre, and you can see where this is going to end if nothing else intervenes.
From a local that has been researching, he HAS been paying the fees but not releasing them to BLM. There is money in a state held escrow account or something to that effect.
WTF-ever at April 9, 2014 at 4:32 PM CLEARLY has no freakin' idea who Ann Barnhardt is or what her stance(s) on paying taxes are.
That said, Ann CLEARLY doesn't understand the situation as-presented by the man she's calling a "thief." According to said "thief," he has been paying the state and county all the fees they are entitled to and withheld the fees ONLY from the .fedgov that they have unconstitutionally usurped the state's sovereignty and authority from in order to levy them.
Ann needs more information, not recriminations from people who have no earthly clue who she is or what she's done in life to protest the burgeoning federal beast.
God, I wish I could go there. I am too old, diseased and in the way to be of any help, and broke besides, but I do hope there are enough young and healthy elders to make the federal beast stand down.
All it really takes is a few knowledgeable fellas on a good hot day with about a 10 mile per hour wind to "light a fire under their asses". Turn em all to ashes... it's no less than they deserve. The stories you will hear of overgrazing are mostly bullshit examples of the environMENTAL spin factory that has re-written so much of the past that very few are still alive to remember the way things actually happened. They all scream "the cattle are overgrazing and killing our forests!!!" so they over manage those forests and end up killing them. That's rich! They're just pissed off that this guy is shoving a sharp stick in their eye by not paying a "fee" that they invented to help pay for their own overinflated Bureaucracy. Holy crap! Sounds like income taxes!!!
And anyone that thinks there are no feed costs for ranchers on public land is pretty uneducated on the subject. Might I suggest "Looking Through The Smoke" by Jinx Pyle as a start.
I say burn the BLM out. That's just my opinion though.
http://youtu.be/LhJ6H9vlEDA
Here is some video of people being tazed at the ranch. Government at its finest.
... and what is to stop those who prepare food for these Fedral leeches simply running their fingers through their butt-cracks and smearing them in the food ... ???
Just asking ...
Even Feds eat several times each day!
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CzarChasm....
I know who Ann is...I simply don't care for most of her drivel, unlike you apparently.
That's fine. I admittedly don't know her stance on Income Tax, but my point was to draw a comparison. You can't be in favor of one unconstitutional levy and not another. In any case, you're missing the point: we have a situation where a federal bureaucracy is suspending the protections enumerated in the Bill of Rights with no due process, seizing property with no due process, threatening deadly force, etc.
THAT is what we should all be concerned about, not whether or not Ann Barnhardt is correct in her assumptions about this rancher.
Why aren't thousands of committed patriots enroute to that location?
No more Wacos or Ruby Ridge's, correct?
Just sayin'.
Were I reading reports that thousands of citizens were showing up in that area to support the rancher, I'd be on my way already.
But, instead all I hear is:
chirp, chirp, chirp.
Go to www.gov.nv.gov and select "contact". You can send Gov. Sandoval an email there. Ask him to command his state police to go there and protect the Bundys, their assets and the protesters from the BLM before this situation turns into another "Waco". I just sent him an email that way. Flood him with similar emails!
Anon0732, for folks acting as these fedgov people are, I've long held that they should be shunned.
Don't talk to them. Don't sell them food, or fuel, or paper, or pens. Every gas station in the U.S. has an emergency cutoff switch. If the station owner is willing to sell them fuel and you see it, hit the switch.
Don't eat with them, don't drink with them, for pity's sake, don't have sex with them. If they're in a restaurant or a bar you're in, move across the room.
Think of it as a humorous form of passive-aggressive non-violent resistance.
THEY won't see it that way, but...
I thought stealing cattle was rustling. if you are taking an other man's cattle that is rustling. Cattle rustling is against the law. You shoot cattle rustlers or hang from nearest tree'
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