One of the "perps" said, "...everybody is not a criminal..."
Yeah right. Ha! If you are a cop these days, everybody is a criminal. Everybody that is, except members of your own gang or affiliated gangs. When your gang has official State sanction, you can do no wrong. Anyone you decide to target is a bad guy.
It a pretty cool gig. You get to wear a super-hero costume, bear a magic shield (which makes you impervious to being wrong), you can do what ya want, no body can fuck with you. Any crimes you commit which would get a mere mortal "civilian" arrested and jailed will be covered by your fellow gang members. You can practice your thuggery freely and without worry. Oh yeah, if you catch a real genuine bad guy from time to time, that's cool too!
These are the same men who would tell you, one minute prior to violating you, they support your Constitutional "right" to be secure in your person.
The time has long passed where the people may believe that the "vast majority are good guys who mean well". The vast majority see themselves as an army of occupation and you are an enemy to be dominated and controlled.
Logically speaking, if the "vast majority" were good guys, these incidents would be as rare as hen's teeth. The thugs who do these things would be few and far between. Both are common and numerous. What does it say about an "enforcement" culture which dictates that any person, when spoken to by a policeman, must go prone and piss on himself immediately or risk being summarily executed?
Perhaps some of these Georgia officers attended that FBI training seminar, where they said it was OK to bend or break the law, in order to enforce it. It would be interesting to see if Special Agents, who attended that seminar, then went out into local and state police departments and trained them. That is usually how the "system" works, sometimes with direct approval from Washington, sometimes through fusion centers. No matter, I hope they get their balls sued off.
Just had a TSA interaction. The grunt placed the back of his hands on my jeans pockets and that was it. However they just had to empty the entire contents of my carry on bag. (Couldn't avoid TSA as the flight was a gift). I promised the wife I wouldn't make a scene but I had reached the limit of my promise - no doubt. I had told her that touching my junk would create a scene and control of that tested with them.
All in all I'll say this much, as I was being scrutinized I watched muzzie after muzzie sail right on by absent such scrutiny. Absolutely pathetic.
As for these seemingly new roadside probings, there is NO WAY that's happening to me absent a fight. Wanna search my junk? Then get a WARRANT! wanna search my car? Get a WARRANT. Wanna know where I've been and where I'm going? Tough. That's none of their business.
In my state there is no choice but to hand over ID and proof of insurance. There's no choice but to submit to sobriety tests and checkpoints. Refusal means six months not allowed to drive. Guilty period for simple refusal.
I will say this much. When dealing with government officials, a mention or two of title 42 section 1983 goes a looooong way regarding how they decide to proceed. I wonder if those gropers would have been bold enough to accost and assault those people has they declared their rights and the knowledge needed to defend them.
Recently on the "iOwnTheWorld" blog there was a video of a shooting in Arizona which generated a large number of comments. One commenter mentioned that he was willing to give LEOs the benefit of the doubt in this instance. While he was willing to give LEOs the benefit of the doubt as I saw it, the citizen, criminal scum, illegal alien or whatever he was, got the benefit of death.
I'm long past the point of giving anyone with authority over me the benefit of the doubt.
Another commenter, retired LEO with thirty years experience, saw it as I did that there was no reason for the man's death and the officers involved should have been held accountable. I agreed with his sentiments right up to the last line which was "but 99% of LEOs are good guys."
If 99% of LEOs were good guys, we would be reading headlines along the line of:
"Officer Abuse Has Been Arrested by Fellow Officers Good and Decent for Violating Joe Citizen's Fourth Amendment Rights and is Currently Being Held in the Civil Rights Detention Facility in leiu of 50,000 Dollars Bail"
Are there good and decent officers out there? My last two minute interaction with LEO raises this very question. I received a phone call the other night from an officer solicting money for his LEO charity.
The money pitch; LEO: Can I count on you for fifty dollars for this worthy cause? Me: If you want money, you'll have to contact my wife's lawyer. LEO: I don't understand. Me: Since your fellow officers conducted their illegal search, all our excess money has been contributed to my wife's lawyer. LEO: I didn't know anything about an illegal search. What were the circumstances? Me: Two officers showed up at our property to issue my wife a no trespassing warning. No one was at home and they took the opportunity to do a snooping and found marijuana. LEO: Breaking and entering. (muttered) You'll beat that in court. Counter sue for breaking and entering. Me: Counter sue? LEO: Counter sue for breaking and entering. Me: Thank you. Have a good night.
I would like to think that had that officer been among the group that searched our property, he would have said to his fellow officers;
"This is wrong. We are violating these people's rights. Let's get out of here."
I'm not prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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One of the "perps" said, "...everybody is not a criminal..."
Yeah right. Ha! If you are a cop these days, everybody is a criminal. Everybody that is, except members of your own gang or affiliated gangs. When your gang has official State sanction, you can do no wrong. Anyone you decide to target is a bad guy.
It a pretty cool gig. You get to wear a super-hero costume, bear a magic shield (which makes you impervious to being wrong), you can do what ya want, no body can fuck with you. Any crimes you commit which would get a mere mortal "civilian" arrested and jailed will be covered by your fellow gang members. You can practice your thuggery freely and without worry. Oh yeah, if you catch a real genuine bad guy from time to time, that's cool too!
These are the same men who would tell you, one minute prior to violating you, they support your Constitutional "right" to be secure in your person.
The time has long passed where the people may believe that the "vast majority are good guys who mean well". The vast majority see themselves as an army of occupation and you are an enemy to be dominated and controlled.
Logically speaking, if the "vast majority" were good guys, these incidents would be as rare as hen's teeth. The thugs who do these things would be few and far between. Both are common and numerous. What does it say about an "enforcement" culture which dictates that any person, when spoken to by a policeman, must go prone and piss on himself immediately or risk being summarily executed?
Perhaps some of these Georgia officers attended that FBI training seminar, where they said it was OK to bend or break the law, in order to enforce it. It would be interesting to see if Special Agents, who attended that seminar, then went out into local and state police departments and trained them. That is usually how the "system" works, sometimes with direct approval from Washington, sometimes through fusion centers. No matter, I hope they get their balls sued off.
Just had a TSA interaction. The grunt placed the back of his hands on my jeans pockets and that was it. However they just had to empty the entire contents of my carry on bag. (Couldn't avoid TSA as the flight was a gift). I promised the wife I wouldn't make a scene but I had reached the limit of my promise - no doubt. I had told her that touching my junk would create a scene and control of that tested with them.
All in all I'll say this much, as I was being scrutinized I watched muzzie after muzzie sail right on by absent such scrutiny. Absolutely pathetic.
As for these seemingly new roadside probings, there is NO WAY that's happening to me absent a fight. Wanna search my junk? Then get a WARRANT! wanna search my car? Get a WARRANT. Wanna know where I've been and where I'm going? Tough. That's none of their business.
In my state there is no choice but to hand over ID and proof of insurance. There's no choice but to submit to sobriety tests and checkpoints. Refusal means six months not allowed to drive. Guilty period for simple refusal.
I will say this much. When dealing with government officials, a mention or two of title 42 section 1983 goes a looooong way regarding how they decide to proceed. I wonder if those gropers would have been bold enough to accost and assault those people has they declared their rights and the knowledge needed to defend them.
Anon...
Don't forget the Bivens action if the happen to be Fed boys.
@ Longbow
Recently on the "iOwnTheWorld" blog there was a video of a shooting in Arizona which generated a large number of comments. One commenter mentioned that he was willing to give LEOs the benefit of the doubt in this instance. While he was willing to give LEOs the benefit of the doubt as I saw it, the citizen, criminal scum, illegal alien or whatever he was, got the benefit of death.
I'm long past the point of giving anyone with authority over me the benefit of the doubt.
Another commenter, retired LEO with thirty years experience, saw it as I did that there was no reason for the man's death and the officers involved should have been held accountable. I agreed with his sentiments right up to the last line which was "but 99% of LEOs are good guys."
If 99% of LEOs were good guys, we would be reading headlines along the line of:
"Officer Abuse Has Been Arrested by Fellow Officers Good and Decent for Violating Joe Citizen's Fourth Amendment Rights and is Currently Being Held in the Civil Rights Detention Facility in leiu of 50,000 Dollars Bail"
Are there good and decent officers out there? My last two minute interaction with LEO raises this very question. I received a phone call the other night from an officer solicting money for his LEO charity.
The money pitch;
LEO: Can I count on you for fifty dollars for this worthy cause?
Me: If you want money, you'll have to contact my wife's lawyer.
LEO: I don't understand.
Me: Since your fellow officers conducted their illegal search, all our excess money has been contributed to my wife's lawyer.
LEO: I didn't know anything about an illegal search. What were the circumstances?
Me: Two officers showed up at our property to issue my wife a no trespassing warning. No one was at home and they took the opportunity to do a snooping and found marijuana.
LEO: Breaking and entering. (muttered) You'll beat that in court. Counter sue for breaking and entering.
Me: Counter sue?
LEO: Counter sue for breaking and entering.
Me: Thank you. Have a good night.
I would like to think that had that officer been among the group that searched our property, he would have said to his fellow officers;
"This is wrong. We are violating these people's rights. Let's get out of here."
I'm not prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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