Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Ol' Remus on Voting

"What doesn't work is voting in national elections. If voting worked it would have worked by now."
Am in a hurry to get to the wound care doc early this morning, so I'll leave the comments in your capable hands, readers. I'll have more later.

8 comments:

MadDawg308 said...

There is an old saying: "If voting got what the people wanted, it would be made illegal." While I partially agree with Remus's thoughts, I disagree with the concept that not voting somehow negates the results.

If you don't vote (for or against someone), those that do will decide who represents you. Even if you could convince most of the people in the country to not vote/empower the statists in D.C., there would always be those who believe that voting for them is important, and THEIR votes will decide which statist rules over you.

Not voting does not mean that the powers-that-be will not affect you in some way.

I do agree with the concept that Remus says that revolution is the only way to fight the encroaching loss of liberty in this country. I don't see how voting or not voting factors into that at all. Noone voted during the American Revolution 1775-1781. Except with their rifles.

Anonymous said...

If voting was left to county lines, with counties functioning like states, the built in checks and balances of the guaranteed government of Republican form would reign in the corrupting nature of the urban center direct democracy.

Anonymous said...

What we really want to know is how you feel about this - will you take him to task for being correct, yet again? Or do you want to see how the wind blows? I am a fan of yours for many years (and continue to be) but on the Remus front you were wrong. Oh, since I'm annoying you anyway - ABSOLVED? Keep in mind that since you have demonstrated greatness we now expect it of you on a continuing basis.

Anonymous said...

Unless we can reverse the moral rot within our society there ain't much hope. The KGB knew this decades ago.

Dakota said...

Well, Ol Remus I would have to agree a little with you. I do not advocate not voting however. I always say "if you do not exercise your voting rights, you can't bitch". I stand by that assertion without apology to anyone.

Does it matter who you vote for? In most cases "no" they are all equally worthless. However if Texans sat out we would not have Ted Cruz speaking out either. Ol Remus is a fool and I don't listen to fools

Anonymous said...

" checks and balances of the guaranteed government of Republican form would reign in the corrupting nature"

now that's some funny shit, right there.

Anonymous said...

Vote - but then begin melting tar and plucking chickens as a prequel to accountability.

No sucessful candidate has any idea of the wrath of the people until rode out of town on a rail a couple of times.

This may be a terrible system - but all the rest are worse!

III

Anonymous said...

Voting may have worked at some time in the distant past, when the US was actually a republic, but voting is now a charade done to give legitmacy to the crypto-totalitarian government that began its ascent in the US circa 1860.

The US election process is a closed system that intentionally prevents dissent from the large government orthodoxy preached by the only two parties that are allowed to participate in the power-sharing process.

Where's the proof?

Every four years the GOP runs a candidate on a platform of small government, low taxes, and a [partial] return of the individual liberty that has been taken by government regulation, taxation, and general interference. And every four years voters believe the platform and "get out the vote."

Yet for some mysterious reason we have less liberty today than our counterparts in 1855.

How can that be? When GOP candidates are elected, don't GOP presidents immediately issue an executive order preventing the BATF/FBI from enforcing the Clinton Gun Ban provisions or the Hughes Amendment? Don't they direct the IRS to ignore taxpayers that don't? Aren't entire "unconstitutional" departments shut down to "obey the Constitution" and in the name of liberty?

Don't GOP controlled Houses refuse to pass any budget that doesn't strip out funding for "unconsitutional" laws and departments and programs?

Don't GOP controlled Senates refuse to consent to avowed statists nominated by Democrat presidents? Don't they refuse to pass anti-US treaties like NAFTA? Don't they reject budgets that in anyway grow the size of the feds?

Of course not. The votes don't really matter. They candidates are handpicked by the parties so no matter who is elected, the big government orthodoxy will survive.

None of that above-described behavior is endorsed by the parties, let alone tolerated, because voting does not encourage compliance to liberty. Why, some of those ideas are even "unconstitutional" according to leaders in the party (as well at least 5 certain federal employees of SCOTUS).

Voting may feel good, but it certainly is not going to change the character of the national government.