Tuesday, July 2, 2013

The surveillance state.

License-plate readers let police collect millions of records on drivers

8 comments:

WarriorClass III said...

Perhaps it's time we returned the favor and started tracking every politician, federal, state and local government employee, making note of their home and work address, what vehicle they drive, who their family members are & where they live, and what they do every day of the week. And then share that information with other concerned citizens.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if the reason the Founders included the 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights was to preclude government forces from collecting sensitive documents by illegally searching and seizing plans prior to the Revolution?

One wonders in this day and age, if that's not EXACTLY why the Founders wanted to be free of such searches. Essentially, revolt against a government with unlimited ability to stop and search would make it very hard for the Colonials to smuggle weapons, disperse plans and intel, etc.

In today's terms, the government's ability to track vehicle movements through these license plate readers makes it exceedingly simple to see which vehicles have come through a "crime scene" at a given point in time. Then it's a matter of tracking down each vehicle. From traffic cams to camera surveillance at every level, all of our movements are being documented and cataloged.

There are definitely ways around the police state surveillance, however, the technology will make make things very difficult when the coming revolution rears its head and I have to wonder if that was the primary reason the Founders instituted the 4A.

Anonymous said...

Before, I think I would bemoan this state of affairs, get angry about it and think, "Oh my, we're in a heap of trouble now. Look how bad things are."

Now, I think, "Let them do their worst. This will only make this obscene leviathan/idol's fall all the more spectacular."

My attitude (Fear-Anger-Rage) used to be far different than what it is now.

Now it is through different eyes that I see things, though the repugnance of this state of affairs still offends me.

Now I feel almost (note: almost) a sort of pity for Leviathan. It's walking, roaring, swishing its tail back and forth, devouring what and whom it can, but it's already dead. It simply does not yet recognize this fact.

Leviathan is a dumb, deaf, blind idol that is going to find itself on the ground without hands some morning. This man-created Dagon idol will bow before the King (1 Samuel 5).

The harder it does things like this to hang on to its aspirations to a divine state-as-god status, the more forcefully I think these aspirations will be wrenched from it.

$.02

Justin

bubba said...

They’re foolish to believe that they're immune from intelligence being gathered on them too.

FedUp said...

The paperback-size device, installed on the outside of police cars...

...is especially vulnerable to spray paint.

Anonymous said...

I'm of the opinion that anything beyond a cop's five senses should require a warrant. If they can see, hear, taste, smell, or touch it, then they should back off.

These license plate readers should require a warrant just like a drug sniffing dog should.

Anonymous said...

Infrared LED's are a cheap deterrent to those readers.

They don't draw much power and can be left on all the time.

4 of them at each end of the vehicle will nearly guarantee an unreadable plate.

Paul X said...

License plates, and driver's licenses too, are badges of our slavery. The day will come when these badges are coming off - probably when the federal government kills the dollar and destroys the economy, and people lose their incentive to pay attention to tyrants.

"The revolution occurs when the victims cease to cooperate."
-- Karl Hess