Friday, April 5, 2013

Well, isn't this special?

The ATF Wants ‘Massive’ Online Database to Find Out Who Your Friends Are

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

EMATH, but don't us taxpayers already fund "Fusion Centers" already empowered to perform this task ? OTOH, just how "efficient" do we want our servants to be ? In our daily lives we meet and interact with a great many people.

Do you remember a bar conversation with someone you gave a business card 15 years' back ? What if you were 1000 miles from home on a business trip ?

Seems to me BATF is sowing a minefield with expectations of "collateral damage" when someone trips and they get a "freebie" S&D license to interrogate any/all the unfortunates' casual/direct lifetime contacts. >Jeff

Anonymous said...

News like this is why the computer geeks are needed to make viruses. Would love for the BatFags to make their database only to have a virus wipe it out.

William Flatt said...

ATF may as well call over to the Census Bureau and get 'the big list' emailed to them; at this point it is possible for ANYONE, or everyone, to get a gun without ever having to step inside a gun store, a gun show, or buy a gun from another person: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DconsfGsXyA

But we all know that this database thingy is just one part of a multipart data mining system that ATF will use to ID 3%ers and map out the social networking of RKBA activists. No doubt once this is done, and some other false flag is carried out to justify the next step, we will see individuals being targeted. At first they will be targeted for 'enforcement actions', these people will be the vocal motivational types - either Mike, or Dave Codrea, or Kurt Hoffmann just to name a few. Then the next batch will likely be visited by 'kill teams', and the cover story will be 'resisting law enforcement', etc...

Hope all you people are getting ready, you know it's coming!

Anonymous said...

Like I been sayin' all along; DUMP THE FUCKIN' CELL PHONES. That is if you want to live. A certain militia has a rule "you join up you don't use or carry cell phones- GPS- I pads, or ANY E-device that MAY be tracked". "First rule of fight club" kind of thing. Hi-Tec cannot SEE Low-Tec. If you don't leave an E-footprint you CANNOT be tracked.

Anonymous said...

Jurassic park leftovers notwithstanding, these dangerous animals consistently redline the DUMB-O-METER . I mean, even HUD/DOD/IRS/CIA grasped the potential of PROMIS over 20 yrs ago, and lord knows what it's morphed into by now. But as we all know, these clueless clowns are too busy setting up "stings" that redefine the word baffoons. I mean, c'maaan, setting up a "storefront" for buying guns from people off the street at such ridiculously high prices that the "sellers" bought down the street and then made a profit..not to mention the store getting "burglarized" to the tune of $30k in merchandise..and THEN..leaving a freaking MACHINE GUN in a vehicle parked adjacent to the store..which also gets burglarized, and the ATF STILL hasn't found it, which means someone out there has a full blown machine gun... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

I mean, talk about the BIG BANG OF STUPIDITY...of course..then there's the Great Moment in Monumental Baffoonery...FAST & FURIOUS. These dimwits couldn't get a clue if they were dipped in Clue musk and paraded in a field of Clues doing a freaking Clue mating dance.

HOWEVER, there's one absolute truth here. The more complex these software and other programs are, the more likely they never get finished. The state of Calif, NSA, DOD, IRS and others learned the hard way..and now...$365 MILLION later..the DOJ's wireless system is a fucking joke. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/356-million-radio-fail/

Well, let's see..oh yeah..ok, I'll try DOLTS fer $2k

Anonymous said...

quote:"Then the next batch will likely be visited by 'kill teams', and the cover story will be 'resisting law enforcement', etc..."unquote

Kill teams is a massive understatement. Check this story out "MSM TOTALLY blocked it 100%. Unfuckingbelievable..

quote:"Sharpsburg, Maryland, population 706, is a quiet little town bordering the Antietam National Battlefield in rural Washington County. On Thursday, November 29, 2012 at about 12:30 pm, the quiet was shattered by an invasion of over 150 Maryland State Police (MSP), FBI, State Fire Marshal’s bomb squad, and County SWAT teams, complete with two police helicopters, two Bearcat “special response” vehicles, mobile command posts, snipers, police dogs, bomb disposal truck, bomb sniffing robots, and a huge excavator. They even brought in food trucks."...
The raid was one of the largest in recent U.S. history, twice the size of the 1993 Branch Davidian raid in Waco, Texas, which initially involved 76 ATF agents. It almost rivaled the recent 200-strong statewide manhunt for California cop-killing cop, Christopher Dorner. Yet only a few local stories emerged and those presented a hysterical portrait of Porter while largely underreporting the police presence." unquote

yesireebob..TWICE the size of Waco. Right. And not a word on MSM. Folks..if the few examples in this article of the emerging police state in America doesn't make those neurons start firing, excuse the pun, then nothing will.
Amerika..Land of the Policestate, Home of TOTALATARIANISM-R-US.

http://www.aim.org/special-report/police-militarization-abuses-of-power-and-the-road-to-impeachment/#

excuse me..I'm about to puke.

Anonymous said...

Even if it gets delivered, they aren't savvy enough to run it, they won't be able to sustain it w/o expensive contractor "integrator tech support" and, as said, the more sophisticated it is, the better.

However, it will probably be really good for producing bogus results that generate more bogus no-knock warrants.

SWIFT said...

The ATF does not need this data mining system. In the past, when a piece of the puzzle in an investigation was missing, they'd fabricate the missing information, raise their right hands in oath, and perjure themselves as to it's truthfulness. That method saved time and money. Further, no one in the ATF lost any sleep over being viewed as a genuine POS! As old grandpa SWIFT use to say:If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

William Flatt said...

Anon @7:15, the reason why they used 150 agents to raid Porter (yes, I saw this when it happened, made me sick too) ...has to do with the fact that these agents are EXPECTING armed resistance to counter their raids.

For what it's worth, their tactical plans are now including multiple security elements to DEFEND against a counter-raid. I'm not saying they are becoming more competent, but when the militia projects a more comprehensive deterrent, this forces the alphabets to make more complicated plans to protect themselves from citizens who push back.

Actually, while seeing Waco-sized raid parties is very disturbing to the casual observer, it is also a good sign that they are TYING UP so many resources ON JUST ONE PERSON. Imagine how overwhelmed they will be when they have to expend 150-200 to 1 manpower times 10,000 patriots who are at least equal threats.

What we have to commit ourselves to is defending to the uttermost our family, friends and teammates whenever they are targeted by the police state.

Last Friday I just turned in my badge and quit - it is no longer possible to be an Oath keeper and work within the system, they just target you in any of 10,000 ways to destroy you.

If any of you have been a keyboard commando, a birching complainer, stop. It's time for patriots to shut up or put up, the war has already begun in case you haven't been paying attention. Patriots, gun owners, preppers, tea party activists, veterans, and others are being targeted by the police state and subjected to terrorist assault.

http://youtu.be/ac4IDhjIS7Y

It's time to unite for the common defense!