OK, all you guys who think Dr. Paul is the greatest thing since the invention of yeast bread, what do yo say about THIS? Paul almost sounds like h'es getting his talking points from the left! I'm not sure how much more "open" we can make the dialog with Cuba unilaterally.
I like some of Paul's ideas but in total I consider him a nutjob. Rand seems to be a bit more centered, but HIS organization keeps sending out "URGENT" emails about things I heard about LAST YEAR!
I don't refrain from voting for Dr. Paul because he is unelectable. I don't vote for him because from where I sit he looks like almost as big a barking moonbat as Rachael Madcow! WHICH is why I believe him to be unelectable.
If I were the DNC and I really, Really, REALLY wanted to give Obama {shudder} "4 more years", I'd have my own Grima Wormtongue whispering in Dr. Paul's ear "Mount a 3rd Party Candidacy". I am entirely confident that Paul could EASILY siphon off enough votes from conservatives and libertarians to give Obama an electorial landslide. {excuse me. I threw up a bit in my mouth} If you're not going to vote for the GOP candidate and the 3rd party candidate (if, indeed there IS one) isn't from the extreme left, then why don't you just go ahead and vote for Obama? You might as well! The effect under those circumstances will be identical. Obama gets a 2nd term and my youngest grandchild gets to grow up under roughly 18th century conditions.
To-Do List: Pray Vote (if you get the opportunity) Stockpile essential supplies Practice and perfect marksmanship
I have to disagree, Mike. Calling humanitarian aid equivalent to trade is hardly genuine. Can an American buy anything else from Cuba? Cigars, as an example, are considered contraband.
Mr. Paul gets it right on damn near everything else, certainly far more than any of the clowns being put forward as "serious contenders". We see how badly the dead elephants and the media do not want Dr. Paul to be even recognized with the dishonest reporting about his standing in the polls.
Please don't join the bandwagon that trashes Ron Paul because they fear the possibility of real change to the corrupt status quo.
1) an embargo is an act of war because it (architecturally) whacks those least able to cope with it -- the poor. If you support the Cuban embargo, you support making war against the Cuban -people- (as opposed to the Cuban government).
2) we have embargoed Cuba for 50+ years. If it were going to do some good, don't you think we might have seen some evidence of it by now?
3) the Cuban emigre community in Florida was originally composed of those Cubans rich enough to get out in time. They don't care what it costs; they just want to punish Castro for nationalizing all their stuff. They have a point, but an embargo is not the way to accomplish what they want. They have been 'stupided' as badly as the rest of the American people.
I sure wish Ron Paul didn't have such a screwy foreign policy. Aside from that, he would make a great President. Secretary of the Treasury instead?vatc
I'd like to know what specifically Bad Cyborg thinks makes Paul a "nutjob" and a "moonbat".
Is it the short, out of context blurbs from Paul's comments played by a biased media (like we need to return to the gold standard, when he's clearly stated we need a mixed basket of commodities, INCLUDING GOLD, to give us sound money instead of fiat currency)?
Look, I don't agree with everything Paul says....but if you look at his voting record and actually look at his overall philosophy, he usually votes/thinks in a way consistent with Constitutional principles. The Republican establishment is afraid that they can't control him....which alone should tell you something and is a good thing IMO.
I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils. I may not vote for Paul, but I'm NOT voting for another bigger government, statist that says one thing and does another. Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, yet you advocate doing exactly that by voting GOP in the coming election b/c you don't want to "throw away" your vote. I submit to you that there is little difference in the two parties and that this 2 party paradigm serves only to distract and divide.
My biggest beef with Paul is that after becoming Chair of the House Subcommittee on Monetary Policy (complete with subpoena powers and ability to indict) he has not brought the banksters that caused the financial collapse and MBS mess before the House to indict these people for fraud. It is one of the few times I have seen his words NOT match his actions.
Lastly, considering the amount of election fraud being uncovered in this country, it's only a matter of time before it becomes widespread. Regardless of splitting the so-called "conservative" vote (who just happen to be as anti-liberty as their leftist opponents, just on different issues of state power).....Obama may just pick up another 4 years anyway.
LOL............the comments here and in other topics that involve Ron Paul highlight a gap between younger III%ers and older ones when it comes to foriegn policy. Pretty much all of the guys over 45 are products of cold-war america in one way or the other. back then "containment" was the dove-ish policy. guys my generation and younger, however, were elementery students when the wall went down. So us that came of age in the clinton and W Bush years have a whole different perspective. your cold war babies were exposed to Nuclear drills, and there was a very real "red menace" in the fact that you had two huge countries, on of which, the USSR, was considered a superpower, that were under communist control, that happened to be two of the biggest nations on earth. On the other hand, those of us who grew up post cold war, see america's biggest threat as a bunch of wandering animal-molesting cousin marry-ers with Kalsahnikovs and camel's. I really dont have an opinion on cuba, but castro is a relic......all his homies are gone. He will be soon, too.
I'm sure the Dead Elephant apologists on FAUX NEWS will seize thsi gaff to discredit Dr. Paul from being elected dogcatcher. The significant thing was how close he came in the Iowa Straw poll, right behind the former IRS legbreaker, Bachmann. It will be interesting to see how Hannity, O'Reilly, Medved, and the rest of the empty suits and skirts spin this on Monday.
I have never understood, why or how, a person can get so many important things right, but then turn around and get some so very important things so very wrong.
Ron Paul is right about imposing sanctions, but wrong about our own ability, our own choice, to simply turn our backs economically on whichever country wants to act a fool. Example = Somalia famine? Sorry about yer luck bud, thank the Muslim Zealots for that hurt in your belly and your recent weight loss. They hate us so that YOU are starving! Yeah Allah will fill your belly, huh? Sorry Skinnies, but we have been down this FOOD AID road before.
Cuba? There is no "right' to do business with the USA. We have EVERY right to, well, just say no. To Cuba, we should do so. I might add, we should with China as well. Pakistan? Uh huh. OPEC nations, You Betcha. This is not to say other countries aren't free to do what they like, they are and it is not our place to try and dictate their trade. We should, however, mind our own trade and make wise decisions with whom we trade.
Ashrak said, "I have never understood, why or how, a person can get so many important things right, but then turn around and get some so very important things so very wrong."
When a person has so many important things right, I examine the things on which we differ more closely. Sometimes I'm the one that has it wrong.
If trade was so 'normalized' as the author states why do I keep having to tell Customs that the cigars I have are Honduran?
The anti-Paul brainwashing is astounding. Just repeat the sound bites. The MSM doesn't even mention his coming in second in the Iowa Aimes poll.
Then again if he was elected and the economy crashed hard, ideas of freedom and liberty would probably not see daylight for a 1,000 more years.
As far as a radical Muslim under every bed - consider this. Yes Islam is largely a totalitarian pig rapped up in religious lipstick but if you had foreign governments overthrowing your gov and patrolling the streets WTF would you do? Oh wait you already know that answer if you call your self a Patriot in the fashion of Washington, Jefferson, etc. You would pick up a rifle and blow sh*t up.
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I'll allow him a mistake about a country that doesn't matter a whit in the world picture.
If a wave washed Cuba away in ten seconds, few people would miss it's presence.
Regardless of what Ron Pal knows about Cuba, he knows more about how the US government should function than all the rest of congress combined.
OK, all you guys who think Dr. Paul is the greatest thing since the invention of yeast bread, what do yo say about THIS? Paul almost sounds like h'es getting his talking points from the left! I'm not sure how much more "open" we can make the dialog with Cuba unilaterally.
I like some of Paul's ideas but in total I consider him a nutjob. Rand seems to be a bit more centered, but HIS organization keeps sending out "URGENT" emails about things I heard about LAST YEAR!
I don't refrain from voting for Dr. Paul because he is unelectable. I don't vote for him because from where I sit he looks like almost as big a barking moonbat as Rachael Madcow! WHICH is why I believe him to be unelectable.
If I were the DNC and I really, Really, REALLY wanted to give Obama {shudder} "4 more years", I'd have my own Grima Wormtongue whispering in Dr. Paul's ear "Mount a 3rd Party Candidacy". I am entirely confident that Paul could EASILY siphon off enough votes from conservatives and libertarians to give Obama an electorial landslide. {excuse me. I threw up a bit in my mouth} If you're not going to vote for the GOP candidate and the 3rd party candidate (if, indeed there IS one) isn't from the extreme left, then why don't you just go ahead and vote for Obama? You might as well! The effect under those circumstances will be identical. Obama gets a 2nd term and my youngest grandchild gets to grow up under roughly 18th century conditions.
To-Do List:
Pray
Vote (if you get the opportunity)
Stockpile essential supplies
Practice and perfect marksmanship
I have to disagree, Mike. Calling humanitarian aid equivalent to trade is hardly genuine. Can an American buy anything else from Cuba? Cigars, as an example, are considered contraband.
Mr. Paul gets it right on damn near everything else, certainly far more than any of the clowns being put forward as "serious contenders". We see how badly the dead elephants and the media do not want Dr. Paul to be even recognized with the dishonest reporting about his standing in the polls.
Please don't join the bandwagon that trashes Ron Paul because they fear the possibility of real change to the corrupt status quo.
KPN3%
1) an embargo is an act of war because it (architecturally) whacks those least able to cope with it -- the poor. If you support the Cuban embargo, you support making war against the Cuban -people- (as opposed to the Cuban government).
2) we have embargoed Cuba for 50+ years. If it were going to do some good, don't you think we might have seen some evidence of it by now?
3) the Cuban emigre community in Florida was originally composed of those Cubans rich enough to get out in time. They don't care what it costs; they just want to punish Castro for nationalizing all their stuff. They have a point, but an embargo is not the way to accomplish what they want. They have been 'stupided' as badly as the rest of the American people.
I sure wish Ron Paul didn't have such a screwy foreign policy. Aside from that, he would make a great President. Secretary of the Treasury instead?vatc
"I sure wish Ron Paul didn't have such a screwy foreign policy."
Yeah, a non-interventionist foreign policy is so lame. What country doesn't like another country meddling in their sovereign affairs?
I'd like to know what specifically Bad Cyborg thinks makes Paul a "nutjob" and a "moonbat".
Is it the short, out of context blurbs from Paul's comments played by a biased media (like we need to return to the gold standard, when he's clearly stated we need a mixed basket of commodities, INCLUDING GOLD, to give us sound money instead of fiat currency)?
Look, I don't agree with everything Paul says....but if you look at his voting record and actually look at his overall philosophy, he usually votes/thinks in a way consistent with Constitutional principles. The Republican establishment is afraid that they can't control him....which alone should tell you something and is a good thing IMO.
I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils. I may not vote for Paul, but I'm NOT voting for another bigger government, statist that says one thing and does another. Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, yet you advocate doing exactly that by voting GOP in the coming election b/c you don't want to "throw away" your vote. I submit to you that there is little difference in the two parties and that this 2 party paradigm serves only to distract and divide.
My biggest beef with Paul is that after becoming Chair of the House Subcommittee on Monetary Policy (complete with subpoena powers and ability to indict) he has not brought the banksters that caused the financial collapse and MBS mess before the House to indict these people for fraud. It is one of the few times I have seen his words NOT match his actions.
Lastly, considering the amount of election fraud being uncovered in this country, it's only a matter of time before it becomes widespread. Regardless of splitting the so-called "conservative" vote (who just happen to be as anti-liberty as their leftist opponents, just on different issues of state power).....Obama may just pick up another 4 years anyway.
Sean
LOL............the comments here and in other topics that involve Ron Paul highlight a gap between younger III%ers and older ones when it comes to foriegn policy. Pretty much all of the guys over 45 are products of cold-war america in one way or the other. back then "containment" was the dove-ish policy. guys my generation and younger, however, were elementery students when the wall went down. So us that came of age in the clinton and W Bush years have a whole different perspective. your cold war babies were exposed to Nuclear drills, and there was a very real "red menace" in the fact that you had two huge countries, on of which, the USSR, was considered a superpower, that were under communist control, that happened to be two of the biggest nations on earth. On the other hand, those of us who grew up post cold war, see america's biggest threat as a bunch of wandering animal-molesting cousin marry-ers with Kalsahnikovs and camel's. I really dont have an opinion on cuba, but castro is a relic......all his homies are gone. He will be soon, too.
I'm sure the Dead Elephant apologists on FAUX NEWS will seize thsi gaff to discredit Dr. Paul from being elected dogcatcher. The significant thing was how close he came in the Iowa Straw poll, right behind the former IRS legbreaker, Bachmann.
It will be interesting to see how Hannity, O'Reilly, Medved, and the rest of the empty suits and skirts spin this on Monday.
I have never understood, why or how, a person can get so many important things right, but then turn around and get some so very important things so very wrong.
Ron Paul is right about imposing sanctions, but wrong about our own ability, our own choice, to simply turn our backs economically on whichever country wants to act a fool. Example = Somalia famine? Sorry about yer luck bud, thank the Muslim Zealots for that hurt in your belly and your recent weight loss. They hate us so that YOU are starving! Yeah Allah will fill your belly, huh? Sorry Skinnies, but we have been down this FOOD AID road before.
Cuba? There is no "right' to do business with the USA. We have EVERY right to, well, just say no. To Cuba, we should do so. I might add, we should with China as well. Pakistan? Uh huh. OPEC nations, You Betcha. This is not to say other countries aren't free to do what they like, they are and it is not our place to try and dictate their trade. We should, however, mind our own trade and make wise decisions with whom we trade.
Paul ?
Yeah, So long is it is Rand, and not Ron.
Ashrak said, "I have never understood, why or how, a person can get so many important things right, but then turn around and get some so very important things so very wrong."
When a person has so many important things right, I examine the things on which we differ more closely. Sometimes I'm the one that has it wrong.
If trade was so 'normalized' as the author states why do I keep having to tell Customs that the cigars I have are Honduran?
The anti-Paul brainwashing is astounding. Just repeat the sound bites. The MSM doesn't even mention his coming in second in the Iowa Aimes poll.
Then again if he was elected and the economy crashed hard, ideas of freedom and liberty would probably not see daylight for a 1,000 more years.
As far as a radical Muslim under every bed - consider this. Yes Islam is largely a totalitarian pig rapped up in religious lipstick but if you had foreign governments overthrowing your gov and patrolling the streets WTF would you do? Oh wait you already know that answer if you call your self a Patriot in the fashion of Washington, Jefferson, etc. You would pick up a rifle and blow sh*t up.
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