Sipsey Street Irregulars: 7th Circuit to Weigh in on Assault Weapons Ban

Friday, January 23, 2015

7th Circuit to Weigh in on Assault Weapons Ban

"What if somebody decides to possess a bazooka?" "It'd fall into a longstanding prohibition," Vogts replied. "No, there's no such prohibition; they were only invented recently. It was once perfectly legal to own automatic weapons like Tommy guns." "But that dates back 80 years ago." Easterbrook was not convinced. "Yes," he said, "but the Second Amendment dates back to the 18th century. Why does that matter? I don't see how you can say fully automatic weapons are okay to ban because some states banned them in the 1950s. How is it rational to distinguish a ban laid down 150 years after the Second Amendment from one laid down 200 years after?"

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Jay Dee said...: Back when the 2nd amendment was written, private citizens owned the full panoply of military weaponry including cannons and warships. Look up the definition of privateers.; January 23, 2015 at 5:25 AM
Anonymous said...: My Grandpa carried a 'boot gun' back in the day. There were no permission slips then. When you rode the train to the Chicago stockyard, with your cattle to sell, you might have needed one.; January 23, 2015 at 7:32 AM
Anonymous said...: I don't understand why all this is important. Dollars to donut holes the 7th Circuit will uphold Judge Darrah. Anybody want to take me up on that bet?; January 23, 2015 at 9:01 AM
Longbow said...: Damage will be done by people who are not grounded in principles, and are NOT prepared to argue the case from those principles.

"What if someone owns a bazooka?"

Yes! Exactly! So fuckin' what?; January 23, 2015 at 9:53 AM
Anonymous said...: Where in the constitution does it give the supreme court the right to overrule the 2nd amendment or for that matter the 9th?; January 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Good Grief! Trying to read those arguments was like trying to watch a pretzel tie itself in knots. By both sides. No understanding of the plain meaning of the 2A.
G-d help us all.

B Woodman
III-per; January 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Reading this makes me think about taking a "Super Soaker" water gun and converting the body to hold a multi-barrel device that fires all the barrels with each pull of the trigger. A cylindrical magazine (for 22LR) could possibly hold a few hundred rounds of ammo. If it never existed before, how can they ban something that is brand new? Inquiring minds wanna know.; January 23, 2015 at 10:53 PM

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7th Circuit to Weigh in on Assault Weapons Ban

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