tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post7168217685360526165..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Sir Philip Sydney: "Me seems I hear, when I do hear sweet music, The dreadful cries of murdered men in forests." Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-79687334056965824902015-10-02T09:01:51.945-05:002015-10-02T09:01:51.945-05:00I am descendant from aristocratic French Huguenots...I am descendant from aristocratic French Huguenots, of noble blood. Four-hundred years later the hatred of the, let me put this as diplomatically as I can, the Roman authority is keen in many of my living cousins.<br /><br />The Wars of Religion are not well understood, even by some of your commenters who cannot know the depths of the nuances from reading a wiki article or even taking a history class (although that would be beneficial).<br /><br />Religion literally means "to tie back" or "old" or "constrain". It implied adherence to a strict code of behavior and thought. In the case of Christianity, which is inwardly oriented, to the individual not to "classes of person", this tends to the K-selected desire for government by consent and merit, not dictatorship and tyranny.<br /><br />The Italian Mediccis were the banksters of the Renaissance. They gained their influence the old fashioned way: they bought it. As with today's banksters, they sought to control the lives of the masses and successfully installed four of their own as "popes" in the church, with the expectation of keeping their bankster empire well fed.<br /><br />When French nobility and aristocracy objected to the criminal enterprise that was the Church of Rome, the Medicci crime family responded as would any other crime family: private warfare, eventually becoming state-level warfare through their puppets who ruled only with the blessing of the Medicci's family popes.<br /><br />To somehow dismiss this righteous fight against an evil family and corrupt institution is to side with all that is wrong with human nature. Many nominally Roman Catholic nations, mainly along the old Roman frontier, were (and are) by nature meritorious and republican in managing their affairs in the basic manner of the American colonists of 1776. For example, apart form the known Anglo-Saxon ways, Lithuanians had a functional constitutional government -- without an actual king -- for many years before subjugation by German and Russian attacks. The Huguenots and kindred Reformed Dutchmen played a great role in the colonial and Federal era of America, all along the Hudson River Valley where so much of our American history was created.<br /><br />Obviously, the Wars of Religion had nothing whatsoever to do with the teachings of the greatest teacher, Jesus of Nazareth. They had everything to do with pillaging and featherbedding, squeezing the "little people", including the previous ruling class, of every ounce of gold possible.<br /><br />In other words, the Wars of Religion were a righteous response to blatant corruption of the kind we complain about here and everywhere in the Threeper, patriot, paleocon, neo-masculinist, and orthodox Christian communities who are doing their best to undo the centuries old destruction of the Mediccis. It is not an exaggeration to say many of our present woes were birthed by that evil family.<br /><br />Much good eventually came from the Wars but the price was indescribable suffering and loss. It very well be as expensive today, our fight to rid ourselves of our current crop of evil, wicked, ruthless Mediccis in Manhattan, "The City" of London, and of course our own cesspool of corruption, Washington, District of the former Columbia.<br /><br />Learn from history and improve on its mistakes!<br /><br /><br />CharlemagneIsMyGraddadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-50194496128591365032015-10-01T13:32:37.272-05:002015-10-01T13:32:37.272-05:00Everyone looks better in an Elizabethan collar!Everyone looks better in an Elizabethan collar!Joshhttp://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/193672.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-35656952574427868262015-10-01T02:29:19.067-05:002015-10-01T02:29:19.067-05:00I look forward to hearing about how Christians emb...I look forward to hearing about how Christians embarked on a plot to subjugate as inferior every person on the planet, by forced coversion or death as their book, their unchangable and unquestionable book demands. <br /><br />To say Christians have committed horrible acts is one thing - to say they "did the same thing" is another. <br />Islam has been the same since the start. But hey, if it makes people feel better to say "they did it too" then have at it. <br />It doesn't change the situation any - <br /><br />Like Slavery, how long before people stop pointing at those who did it too (even if intent and reasoning is or isn't even similar) and point to those still doing it instead? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-53862344201829071212015-09-30T16:05:32.335-05:002015-09-30T16:05:32.335-05:00Philip Sidney is one of my favorites from Elizabet...Philip Sidney is one of my favorites from Elizabethan times. Warrior, poet, gentleman - he had it all and died too young and very painfully. <br /><br />Sir Francis Walsingham was, of course, Elizabeth's spymaster. <br /><br />Great bargain book find, Mike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-91389481771031167642015-09-30T15:25:36.473-05:002015-09-30T15:25:36.473-05:00Great article. It should be noted that at the rise...Great article. It should be noted that at the rise of the French Protestant movement, they idea first spread among the upper class and then filtered down to Acedemia. The French Wars of Religion were as much about class warfare as it was about who gets to talk to God. <br /><br />ExPat Matt<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-36423006384863739302015-09-30T09:36:37.617-05:002015-09-30T09:36:37.617-05:00Christians DID do it too...and they were no more &...Christians DID do it too...and they were no more "right" despite their *professed* intentions. It is not *right* to deprive others of life, liberty or property and BOTH sides of the Protestant and Catholic (among many other sects of Christianity) schisms did the same....regardless of intent. <br /><br />The road to hell is paved with good intentions as they say and Christianity's book is not the inerrant Word of God and can easily be proven so, from later additions to the text itself to the fact that we don't have evidence of the actual first writings of any of it until, at the closest 115 or so years after the fact (and that's only on the New Testament/Brit Hadasha side of the equation...the DSS are 2C BC at best meaning if one is to believe the Biblical time frame for the OT, you must acknowledge that there's something in excess of 5800 years of time between the DSS and the oldest complete Torah examples). <br /><br />Faith is what it all boils down to....but you cannot rationally decide your faith is better than anyone else's based on the historicity of the texts themselves.<br /><br />Yes, the Crusades were a result of MUSLIM INVASION of Europe and European Christians have unfairly been saddled with a yoke of blame that is history re-written, but let's not fall for the same tactic and try and re-write the WRONGS committed by so-called "Christians" in the name of our Messiah and the Father. <br /><br />Sean King Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-86642810956127859502015-09-30T02:20:53.731-05:002015-09-30T02:20:53.731-05:00Christians committed violence upon one another in ...Christians committed violence upon one another in religious strife. Heck, some still do today. However, Islam is a wee bit different in this regard and I offer to you that the difference is stark enough to place your note in the apples and oranges department. <br /><br />I see nowhere in Christianity where Christianity itself is unquestionable. We see Old Testament and New, where in Islam there is only the Koran and hadiths. With Christians, enlightenment and learning played major roles in reformation and, shall I say the still happening update downloads. Islam is quite different on this front, quite different indeed. There can never be a reformation, a new testament so to speak, heck, the most basic of falsehoods within the hadiths and even the Koran itself, obvious fictions and even blatant lies must just be accepted as truth, basically "because Muhammad said so and said allah said so" and umm "Muhammad cannot be wrong". For if Mo is wrong about even one thing, then he could be wrong about more. <br /><br />I would argue this to you Mike V. Whereas Christians have fought over what is right and proper, it is Muslims who still fight, even amongst themselves, for the right to impose their will upon them through the night makes right collectivist ideal. I say to you with great respect that fighting for what is right and fighting for the power to decide what is deemed right are two very different things. <br /> <br />Wrong can and does come from the end of a gun, right is right and wrong is wrong no matter who has or doesn't have the guns, or swords or nukes or rocks and sticks. If Christians committed aggression for the power to decide and the ones who believed this won, they would have continued to do so - and not just regarding Christians. So are you saying that side did not win? Puzzling this. <br /><br />That tiny comment there sure sounded like a obamaesque "Christians went crusading" so Christians did it too kind of comment and I reject that absolutely. No, not that Some terrible things have not happened at the hands of those claiming themselves to be Christians but that there is any legit comparison between Christianity and Islam. Not very often do your musings strike a nerve but this tidbit sure did. Maybe it is my own perception, maybe it just didn't come out quite right. <br /><br />No need to explain heck no need to even publish this comment if you don't want to. I just wanted you to know that one meaningless fella took your words to be right in line with Obama as he says look look look Christians did it too! You don't too often come off as agreeing with him and thought you should know it sure came off that way. It seems to me that "Christians have their own history of infighting over what is right and what is not" would be more accurate and avoid the perception I took away from this piece. Your pieces are so good, I hate to see them tarnished - even if only in a mistaken perception by a regular reader. 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