tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post6456814026030440011..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: NRA cheese dicks at it again.Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-14833560350130763272010-02-09T12:40:09.840-06:002010-02-09T12:40:09.840-06:00Hi Mike & all:
I'm an NRA member, but not...Hi Mike & all:<br /><br />I'm an NRA member, but not too proud of it. In a sense I have no choice as our local County shooting range here in Texas is an NRA sponsored range. One HAS to join the NRA in order to use the range. <br /><br />Could Gun Owners of America or JPFO utilize the same wise tactic of sponsoring local shooting ranges ?<br /><br />And yes I do support Gun Owners of America, and JPFO, they're far more aggressive than the 'mainstream & PC NRA'.<br /><br />I know Larry Pratt (head of GOA) is a serious Patriot who has his 'fortress of First Principles' sorted out. Gun Owners of America reflects his firmness of Principle.<br /><br />Mr Pratt spoke to our Constitutional Law School on the 'Biblical & Historical Significance of the 2nd Amendment' - powerfully insightful talk. <br /><br />He wove an historically based argument that referenced Genesis, the Law of Moses, English Common Law, Magna Charta, early Colonial Law & Natural Law and how they all fed into the Founding Fathers enshrinement of them in the simple but profound 2nd Amendment.<br /><br />It was the kind of talk that leaves you changed forever. <br /><br />It would have scared the average NRA board of director out of the room ! <br /><br />Why ? It was - too searching, too foundational, too at odds with our shifting moral assumptions - which inevitably guide any collectivist, group think endeavor - which, sad to say, the NRA undeniably IS. <br /><br />Group think isn't always totally wrong, but bold or innovative thinking NEVER originates from group think, exclusively.<br /><br />It almost ALWAYS comes from individuals, first (the prophet) then that is used to 'steer' the group, who are directionless without his influence. <br /><br />Is this not why our States being set back upon the proper course may depend upon even the most humble ones of us, taking a stand despite the cost ? <br /><br />And likewise, this nation of States will never right itself, as a whole, until some bold States take a potentially costly stand against the compromising whole ?<br /><br />We shouldn't expect widespread applause when embarking upon this course.<br /><br />The lone prophet will ALWAYS feel like he is the only one left faithful. <br /><br />(Recall that the Biblical prophet confessed to the LORD that & He replied he had "7,000 men yet in Israel who had NOT bowed the knee to idols...")<br /><br />So, applying this, as a Christian Patriot I try to remember that, that the lone Prophet, the individual, was often used to steer the group, Israel then or the church & nation now, back towards the proper course. <br /><br />Upon attempting this, the habitual compromisers in the larger group (NRA) will be scared of this display of rash boldness (their conscience is compromised), and refuse to support you, the crazy prophet.<br /><br />(Let's see, like FF101 got banned for daring to tell NRA Facebook group where the real Prophets hang out....Oathkeepers.....SipseyStreet.......hmmmmm.....keep it up FF101...)<br /><br />But stand, we must. You are not alone, not by a long shot - in fact the ONLY way the other 7,000 men can be gathered is by you or I standing up to be counted.<br /><br />Let the evil ones rage - they fight in vain against Truth Himself !<br /><br />LORD bless you Patriots...<br /><br />David Alan - TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-69544015239238368312010-02-09T04:21:32.204-06:002010-02-09T04:21:32.204-06:00Check out the title of this missive from LaPierre:...Check out the title of this missive from LaPierre:<br /><br />http://dataservices.nranews.com/svc/nra_classic<br /><br />-S<br />IIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-89938904590131427472010-02-08T18:47:09.569-06:002010-02-08T18:47:09.569-06:00I got BANNED from the 'official' NRA faceb...I got BANNED from the 'official' NRA facebook group for posting links to Oath Keepers, This blog and the Absolved facebook fan page.<br /><br />Screw the NRA and their false pro gun agendaFF101https://www.blogger.com/profile/10808051084238283942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-5190924869946145222010-02-08T17:27:36.214-06:002010-02-08T17:27:36.214-06:00For me, the last straw was when in a recent editio...For me, the last straw was when in a recent edition of Am. Rifleman, they pretty much stated that they wouldn't provide any support to anyone trying to test the waters with the new FFA's in Montana and Tennessee. <br /><br />They love to toot their horn about "standing for our freedom" and all that. Then why isn't somebody David Olofson on the cover of every month's magazine? <br /><br />When my membership expires, I'm done with these guys. <br /><br />Eric<br />IIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-54007532291100966232010-02-08T14:40:48.313-06:002010-02-08T14:40:48.313-06:00I joined the NRA in the immediate aftermath of Dad...I joined the NRA in the immediate aftermath of Daddy Bush's ban on imports of "assault rifles" in 1989. That was the beginning of my disillusionment with him, but it took me 18 years to become disillioned enough with the NRA to give them the heave-ho when I came up for renewal.<br /><br />I'm pushing 50 now, and one of the things that I've learned is that you always have to dig down a few layers to find out the true motivations of both people and organizations - because RARELY will the polished-up image of a person or organization actually square with what they DO. In the NRA's case, there have been quite a number of incidents over the years in which it has become apparent that they are in favor of some gun control, just enough to be able to shout, "Hey, the Boogeyman wants yours guns, give us some money to fight him." I just got tired of supporting that. When they loudly come out in favor of the repeal of at least the '86 full auto ban, I'll reconsider joining up again. Of course, that'd still leave the GCA and NFA abominations, but at least it'd be a good start.<br /><br />Until then, whatever spare money I've got for pro-gun orgs will go to those that are actually, you know, PRO-gun.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421785686116885496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-33897530599624674932010-02-08T09:43:53.401-06:002010-02-08T09:43:53.401-06:00Up to now I have continued to pay a membership (5 ...Up to now I have continued to pay a membership (5 years at a shot, cheapest price) to the NRA as I do like their efforts with the Eddie Eagle child safety training as well as their rangemaster certification program. I always ignore their whiney, fear mongering, beggings for additional donations and direct any spare cash towards other organizations.<br />If Gura wins the Chicago case I will probably continue current practice. If he loses I will place all the blame on this intrusion by the NRA and make sure they never again see a penny from me. I will also spread the word far and wide to encourage friends and acquaintances to do the same.Uncle Larnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-13984826680614602702010-02-08T00:18:28.114-06:002010-02-08T00:18:28.114-06:00I cashed in my life membership when they tried to ...I cashed in my life membership when they tried to scupper Parker before it became Heller by wanting to tie it to a loser case, as they were afraid it wouldn't work out the way they wanted. This is, at minimum, Strike Two in "the Nonsensical Retreating Addled'es abuses of Gura and Cato". Doesn't surprise me a bit. When Jeff K's dad no longer had a significant say it all headed further downhill than it was already headed.tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230665595988628546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-22245217134907523222010-02-07T23:22:06.624-06:002010-02-07T23:22:06.624-06:00This NRA treachery was covered last month on the V...This NRA treachery was covered last month on the <a href="http://volokh.com/2010/01/25/nra-gets-oral-argument-time-in-mcdonald-v-city-of-chicago/" rel="nofollow">Volokh Conspiracy blog</a>, including some explanation about why the NRA was allowed to do what they're doing.<br /><br />It goes much deeper than the above explanation goes. As many know the NRA was founded by former Union Army officers who were all wired into the corporate world that supported the Republican Party and the monster Lincoln way back when. They've always been the way they are today, they've always been inclined to compromise our intrinsic rights away for government.<br /><br />In this case, the SCOTUS has allowed them time to make an argument that will give the justices an out to force boundaries on our right to keep and bear any weapon. The justices cannot themselves introduce an argument, but if an attorney introduces it for the plaintiff, then they can rule on it. That is why the NRA will be there, that is why the SCOTUS granted them time in a case for which they had no standing to be granted time.Pat Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15609474265548424812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-60463517425116694932010-02-07T22:22:01.254-06:002010-02-07T22:22:01.254-06:00I didn't want to believe it at first, but it&#...I didn't want to believe it at first, but it's becoming more and more like the quote in the side bar...Judenrat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-58072825587271522652010-02-07T21:58:24.457-06:002010-02-07T21:58:24.457-06:00Yes, I have supported the NRA in the past and now ...Yes, I have supported the NRA in the past and now too. However, if I see they deliberately screw this up they will get no more money from me and I will try to work to increase the membership of both the JFPO and GOA, two more gun groups I support now with dues. I can see the NRA doing something like this on purpose because if there are no more battles to fight then where would they get money to survive.tjbbpgobIIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12456342500825653657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-88803188037234051572010-02-07T19:33:17.300-06:002010-02-07T19:33:17.300-06:00Support all three!Support all three!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-88456136814500683872010-02-07T19:22:31.405-06:002010-02-07T19:22:31.405-06:00I found this while looking for something else. Th...I found this while looking for something else. The author is admittedly a gun-banner for the Brady Bunch but his claim is certainly interesting.<br /><br />Gun Control Act of 1968<br />Keith Rollins Eakins <br /><br />THE DEVELOPMENT OF GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION IN THE 1960s<br />A highly controversial bill that precipitated emotional debate and ferocious political battles, the Gun Control Act traveled quite a convoluted path prior to its ultimate approval by Congress. It started down its torturous road in 1963 when Senator Thomas J. Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, championed legislation geared specifically at tightening restrictions on the sale of mail-order handguns. After President Kennedy was murdered with a military-style rifle obtained through the mail, Senator Dodd extended the reach of the legislation to include "long guns," including rifles and shotguns. The legislation met an early demise when it was held up in the Commerce Committee and not allowed out for a vote on the Senate floor. <b>Interestingly, the National Rifle Association (NRA) leaders initially supported the measures and even engaged in drafting Dodd's bill.</b> Yet the NRA leadership did not wish to alienate its more radical rank and file, so they neglected to divulge this to their members. Instead, in a letter to each of its affiliates, the NRA claimed its executive vice-president testified against the bill and prevented it from being voted out of Committee. The NRA publication The Rifleman criticized the bill as a product of "irrational emotionalism," and the first four issues of The Rifleman in 1964 dedicated more than thirty columns to firearms legislation, never telling its members of the NRA leadership's support of the bill. These publications provoked the grass roots members to send off a great number of angry letters opposing the bill to Congress.<br />In 1965 President Johnson aggressively endorsed the cause of fighting crime and regulating firearms by spearheading a new, strict gun control measure that Dodd introduced in the Senate. But the Johnson administration's proposal suffered a string of defeats over the next three years because of heavy pressure from the NRA, key congressional leaders who supported them, the American Legion, and gun importers, manufacturers, and dealers. Adding to the administration's difficulties was the lack of an organized pro–gun control lobby to check the relentless onslaughts against the legislation by the NRA.<br />In 1968 President Johnson and his administration intensified their efforts. Johnson began using the bully pulpit of the presidency to chide Congress publicly to enact his gun control policy. In his 1968 State of the Union address, Johnson exhorted Congress to pass a gun control law that would stop "mail order murder." And months later, President Johnson conveyed to Congress, in no uncertain terms, his desire for crime legislation that required national registration of every gun in America and licenses for all gun owners. Both the House of Representatives and the Senate responded to the president's admonishment in short order. Congressional representatives carefully, and often vociferously, argued about the provisions of the president's crime legislation. The measure, titled the Safe Streets and Crime Control Bill, received stiff resistance from gun control opponents.Oldfartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-12192306275843760992010-02-07T19:16:37.413-06:002010-02-07T19:16:37.413-06:00I quit the NRA idiots in the Clinton yrs. They wer...I quit the NRA idiots in the Clinton yrs. They were stupid then and are mega-stupid now. I can't for the life of me see why people stay with them.<br />SameNoKami<br />IIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com