tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post5340031004586698656..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Lines, and Lies, in the Sand, or, A Sensible Request RejectedDutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-33902872001939196532008-12-08T18:52:00.000-06:002008-12-08T18:52:00.000-06:00Good comments all; both here and on Say Uncle's.I ...Good comments all; both here and on Say Uncle's.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if before the revolution the loyalists questioned the sanity of opposing with deadly force the seizure of one powder magazine in Massachusetts. <BR/><BR/>Was Lexington and Concord the site of reasoned discourse and compromise?<BR/><BR/>Give em' Hell Mike!<BR/><BR/>III<BR/><BR/>1894CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-34512618084849332802008-12-06T14:37:00.000-06:002008-12-06T14:37:00.000-06:00"Their arguments are now based on politics rather ..."Their arguments are now based on politics rather than their politics being based on their arguments."<BR/><BR/>Great observation Johnny,and so true.<BR/><BR/> CIIIchris hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267478743755509478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-23571934868231770792008-12-06T09:19:00.000-06:002008-12-06T09:19:00.000-06:00Part of the problem is that we're in the lull befo...Part of the problem is that we're in the lull before the storm. The emptiness of the claims of the prags about `the political process' aren't yet unambiguously evident to Americans.<BR/><BR/>(Forget `gun control' for a moment and look at how the unelected bureaucracy of the European Union holds plebiscites repeatedly until they've engineered the results they want, for the most egregious current example.)<BR/><BR/>One thing that does seem clear is that prags don't have a line in the sand. They've bought into post-modern relativism and it's worked as designed - it has neutralised their political arguments. Their arguments are now based on politics rather than their politics being based on their arguments. Practical, rather than pragmatic people, understand that results are what counts.<BR/><BR/>The prags will never admit they're wrong but we can, I'm sure, be confident that are a lot of people who aren't so carried away with their own cleverness.<BR/><I>Matthew 16:3</I> (KJV)<BR/><BR/>In the final analysis, if it happens it must be true. We shall see.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12671875907666342941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-9475949011086415452008-12-06T09:10:00.000-06:002008-12-06T09:10:00.000-06:00To paraphrase Mike V., We have our enemies' assura...To paraphrase Mike V., We have our enemies' assurances that they will negate any possibility of our using the standard methods of politics against them. That's why being pragmatic is a waste of precious time. It ain't gonna matter, millions of words,letters,faxes,e-mails,protests,demonstrations, all of it. The end result is going to be that these Marxist bastards are going for the marxist gusto, and that means disarmament and subjugation. And not being ready means all you're going to have to face those clowns, is good intentions, a record of good citizenship, and a funny look on your face when they kick the door in and hose you and your family down with an MP-5. Oh, they'll NEVER do THAT. What, sweet Jesus, is going to stop them? Their sterling record as strict constitutionalists, their regard for the law and decency? Sigourney Weaver is a poor example, but she said in the movie, Aliens, " If just one of these things gets down here, then this, this, bullshit, that you think is so important, you can just kiss all this goodbye". And the US govt., with it's power, it's systems, it's lawless marxist bureaucrats, who have run amok for years, never held accountable, never restrained, never downsized, is alien to us, and has no remorse nor pity, is going to be headed by a marxist gun-grabbing punk from Chicago, who has never held a paying job, never put on a uniform, and never expressed anything but utter contempt for people like us. Good luck with being accepting, workable, and pragmatic. He'll eat you first. What it will take for the prags is when enough of them watch enough of their brethren tossed into the chipper-shredder, then they'll get it, but all they'll have left is the ability to jockey for a better place in line. I'm sick to death of this running crap. III.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410045398729979497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-70912913162031555092008-12-06T00:09:00.000-06:002008-12-06T00:09:00.000-06:00QUOTE"If 3% of gun owners were as involved in poli...QUOTE"If 3% of gun owners were as involved in political activism as they supposedly are at preparing for civil war, we’d be an unstoppable political force. There would be no need to argue about where the line is, because it would be political suicide for any politician to get anywhere near it."QUOTE<BR/><BR/>Wow, if you assume us 3 Percenters to be just a bunch of pugnacious conspiracy-theorists, then thats truly wrong. Like Mike said, we are all politically active, perhaps more than many others. I, myself actually spent 2 consecutive nights WITHOUT SLEEP working on pro-freedom and pro-2A posters to be put up around NYC subways and bus stops in the week before the elections. Yep, with only dark chocolate, and bright lights to keep me from falling asleep.<BR/><BR/>If there is truly a "broken fence" in the shooting sports community, it is probably those young shooters and mall ninjas out there who spend all of their time arguing with other shooters because "their" sport is more manly and such and such. Such as the skeet shooters who think AR-15s should be banned, or the rifle hunter who thinks semiautos and revolvers should be banned. These folks are really weakening our community. They must wake up now and stand alongside us instead of bickering to and fro. Any gun owner who supports ANY anti-gun measure is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-10217795602179644152008-12-05T23:55:00.000-06:002008-12-05T23:55:00.000-06:00Dock should review the tapes and real eyewitness a...Dock should review the tapes and real eyewitness accounts of Waco and Ruby Ridge more carefully.<BR/><BR/>These horrifying things are what happens when the backs of good men are turned and fail to see the fast moving clouds of evil racing across a turbulent sky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-21874803441695861612008-12-05T22:21:00.000-06:002008-12-05T22:21:00.000-06:00My reply in general to the politicals (from Ahab's...My reply in general to the politicals (from Ahab's place):<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-view.html" REL="nofollow">Check Your Assumptions</A> <BR/><BR/>IIIConcerned Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05257709418390025182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-37617039315263017192008-12-05T18:46:00.000-06:002008-12-05T18:46:00.000-06:00Although most of us 'wackjobs' care not a gnat's a...Although most of us 'wackjobs' care not a gnat's arse about being called names, we do still laugh at the assertions of such cretins that - duh!!! - why, we never THOUGHT of trying political activism, garsh and golly. Jes' as soons as I kin git mah foot unstuck from this here trash can, I'm gonna look into this here thang they call 'votin' " and git mahself active!". Where in the name of all that is holy, have these imbeciles had their heads for the last 20 years or so, while we have been writing, calling, meeting, boycotting, faxing, lobbying, buttonholing candidates and generally trying to bring some level of sanity into our allegedly 'representative' government? Can people be as truly stupid as this fellow's comments would imply?<BR/>My old Welsh nanny once said, "never waste your time trying to reason with people who have no brains, nor with people who have worms." Maybe we got a double yolk here.<BR/>Or maybe the guy is just angling for an appointment to the new 'pretend president's cabinet.jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850395662800864408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-24421193119168269122008-12-05T18:43:00.000-06:002008-12-05T18:43:00.000-06:00I find it ironic that those who agree that the gov...I find it ironic that those who agree that the government of these United States might systematically violate, and eventually abrogate, one of the individual rights recognized by the Bill of Rights apparently believe that the USG will stop at that.<BR/><BR/>They evidently believe that when the government has erased the right to bear arms that they'll continue to respect and recognize the rest of those rights recognized by the Bill of Rights. I find such naivete' to be astonishing. <BR/><BR/>If the government destroys the right to bear arms, they will have destroyed the concepts of individual rights and individual sovereignty. These concepts are the basis of the philosophy of the enlightenment, and the foundation of Western civilization and our technological society. Which is why the more educated totalitarians among our enemies are pushing this issue so hard.<BR/><BR/>We do, indeed, fight for the future of civilized humanity.<BR/>Aim small, miss small.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-51265722458723439982008-12-05T17:58:00.000-06:002008-12-05T17:58:00.000-06:00A growing trend I have noticed is that people, who...A growing trend I have noticed is that people, who seem to consider themselves pragmatic, have made attempts like this to reason with their fellow pragmatists on the merits of the 3% credible deterrent approach. That is an encouraging sign.CorbinKalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190860109045068350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-4011246494586425792008-12-05T16:51:00.000-06:002008-12-05T16:51:00.000-06:00Whew!I was wondering when you were gonna show up, ...Whew!<BR/><BR/>I was wondering when you were gonna show up, Mike!<BR/><BR/>And yes, I did say that I was done with this endless argument, but I had one of those 'moth drawn to the candle flame' moments.<BR/><BR/>Sorry. Going back to loading .303 now...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-72495271315825032882008-12-05T15:53:00.000-06:002008-12-05T15:53:00.000-06:00Sebastian sounds like many Jews in the Ghetto who ...Sebastian sounds like many Jews in the Ghetto who wouldn't support resistance because they could still "talk" to their captors....<BR/><BR/>Maybe he oughta talk to Zelman...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com