tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post457756233324617790..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Of Kokesh, John Parker and Fort Sumters.Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-4134075886595591492013-05-29T03:16:34.247-05:002013-05-29T03:16:34.247-05:00Fellas, trust me one of the best pieces of evidenc...Fellas, trust me one of the best pieces of evidence that Adam is a plant is his firing from RT. Just sayin'. I have talked to people who know people. He pulled that dumbass FEC violation stunt that Kincaid called him on (right about the time Kincaid was probably paid a sum of money to turn against Ron Paul after defending the Texas Congressman) on purpose to give them a public excuse to fire him rather than a possible real reason -- ties to the Obama apparat. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-27051848631757708412013-05-29T03:10:59.603-05:002013-05-29T03:10:59.603-05:00I hope the fascist tyrants fail to get the false f...I hope the fascist tyrants fail to get the false flag attack by 'insurrectionists' they so obviously want and desperately wanted Boston to be. Let them try to blackbag a bunch of state lawmakers when they nullify their unconstitutional laws, let them bring the fight to us and then get their asses handed to them once word gets around what they're up to. If there is going to be a Civil War 2.0 I'd much rather have air support than be cut off isolated and starving without any free enclaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-16578085243178890952013-05-28T08:22:48.526-05:002013-05-28T08:22:48.526-05:00Im curious to hear the Sipsey Street take on the l...Im curious to hear the Sipsey Street take on the latest turn of this event. Kokesh has been released from Federal Detention. He is NOT, I repeat NOT marching on DC in an Open Carry capacity. He is now calling for a decentralized 'final american revolution' and calling for OC marches on all the State Capitols. This seems to be something the anti-DC-march folks have advocated all along. NOW can the rest of the pro gun movement get behind this or not?A Federal Farmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-65597290807381021132013-05-28T02:09:43.221-05:002013-05-28T02:09:43.221-05:00Kokhead won't serve as John Parker.
But he wi...Kokhead won't serve as John Parker.<br /><br />But he will gladly serve as Benedict Arnold.Happy Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-66651625291355924502013-05-27T19:53:45.018-05:002013-05-27T19:53:45.018-05:00"We MUST get them to initiate the latest '..."We MUST get them to initiate the latest 'intolerable act'"<br /><br />Uh huh. So which one is that? Exactly one? Ten? A thousand? And why don't the other ten thousand already passed count?<br /><br />Or were those tolerable? Maybe we should check with Mrs. Guerena about that.<br /><br />The answer's been around for two hundred years: "Live free or die." The bogeymen on the other side are already bankrupt and know it; the only tool left in their kit is just plain ol' extortion. And honest, hardworking Americans are dizzy from not knowing what to do about extortionists? I mean, really now...is that so tough?<br /><br />"Live free or die." The universe doesn't care---either your life is worth it to you, or it isn't.pelletfarmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-37983696454541032872013-05-27T19:47:33.760-05:002013-05-27T19:47:33.760-05:00I dont care if Kokesh belongs to any group anywher...I dont care if Kokesh belongs to any group anywhere, that goes for the Communist party of the freaking USA to the Hello Kitty fanclub. <br />I say use his voice and his numbers. You all worry about some false flag event. Who cares if it is? You honestly think that our country would be the same the day after a massacre in which anyone, provocatuer, sideshow clown, or moron with a megaphone got killed for choosing a contested Constitutional right to protest. BS.<br />Why not stop worrying about them cracking down on rights that are god given.<br />You either decide to challenge in a way that they cannot ignore or you pass on having never seen again the rights you lost. What will be your regret?<br />Only an idiot wants a war. But only a bigger idiot would delay it for their children to fight.<br />I freaking hate Kokesh, but I dont mind using morons I cant stand to help me achieve a goal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-49416193409263397282013-05-27T19:26:58.329-05:002013-05-27T19:26:58.329-05:00I dont have a dog in the hunt with Kokesh, I am ve...I dont have a dog in the hunt with Kokesh, I am very ambivilant toward him and his idea. I will say this. It aint 1775 and it aint 1860. The rules have changed and the game is much different in the live ball era. No one sees it coming it just gets here. It may even arrive with someone you dont really care for riding it. What if Kokesh sets it off? What if he marches with 100 lunitic supporters and Mugabe uses it as his starter gun? What will you do then? Sorry officer I am not participating in this revolution because I dont agree with Kokesh...what then?<br /><br /><br /><br />Grenadier1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-85455482733105543482013-05-27T18:30:46.671-05:002013-05-27T18:30:46.671-05:00What the Heck, Go Prepared. Bofors 40mm, Minimum. ...What the Heck, Go Prepared. Bofors 40mm, Minimum. Lotsa smoke. Bayonets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-3771091739184374372013-05-27T17:44:35.376-05:002013-05-27T17:44:35.376-05:00Waco was the new Fort Sumter. As far as I'm co... Waco was the new Fort Sumter. As far as I'm concern, when the lead is flying, having the moral high ground ain't worth two shits! It is to be remembered that "winners" write the history books. So when the chapter on, "Moral High Ground" comes up; just write in that we had it. SWIFTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-21153871091737386072013-05-27T17:05:57.529-05:002013-05-27T17:05:57.529-05:00http://www.lady-patriots.com/the-smoking-gun-adam-...http://www.lady-patriots.com/the-smoking-gun-adam-kokesh-works-for-obama/JimHickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16021464811603345970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-47434707347364515642013-05-27T16:04:42.261-05:002013-05-27T16:04:42.261-05:00So we wait? Until when? There is as many differing...So we wait? Until when? There is as many differing answers to that question as there are stars in the sky. So we wait until it is so bad that we have no choice? Who speaks for us? Ron Paul? You? Kerodin? Kokesh? <br /><br />In the revolution it was possible to know who the leaders were and who to follow but these days it is hard to tell the nuts from the fruits and flakes.<br /><br />Where's an old ground pounder supposed to stand? Behind you? Beside you or in front? On my own?<br /><br />Leadership is the key to achieving any goal so who's leading this dance? <br /><br />Us old dogs have had decades to organize, train, resist, politic and defend but things have just gotten worse and worse on our watch. Despite all the bluster and theorizing, blogging and punditfication we are staring enslavement in the face .<br /><br /> They know we are waiting for them to make a stupid move to give us the momentum we need so do you think they will just hand it to us? Very unlikely. We will be turned into rebels and terrorists in the media which will turn the public against us. They are already doing it and fairly successfully.<br /><br />We all know there's going to be a fight and that defeat is not an option. It won't be fought by the sick, lame and lazy but by our daughters and our sons. We sowed the seeds of freedom in them. We'd best offer them some leadership or the Kokeshs will. <br /><br /> Kokesh is using the one tool we have failed to master, the media. His methods, good or bad, have valuable lessons for our "fearless" leaders.<br /><br />Question to you historical minded people-During the American Revolution, how many people went to jail or prison for revolutionary activity before the shooting started? How many people suffered before we started fighting back? How many people lost their homes, fortunes and friends and families before they said enough of this BS. <br /><br /> Many more of us average joe dirts will have to be put in to jails before things will change. It is really a question of how soon or how much later. <br />davy crockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05956599212631419457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-64131146273882825422013-05-27T15:25:13.046-05:002013-05-27T15:25:13.046-05:00Hmmm..
Some would say they have already come for u...Hmmm..<br />Some would say they have already come for us several times others would say not really.. <br />There is wisdom in your words. <br />I only hope the DC scum don't take this opportunity to make an example of them. I did see the video where there was something planted on Kokesh during his arrest and it was very plain but those are the same tactics that handlers use when they need to interview their operatives wthout blowing their cover nd we all know about the federal govts penchant for using instigators and such..<br />This is a devious world we live in.<br /><br />Yank lllAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-82567225375851271082013-05-27T14:42:00.853-05:002013-05-27T14:42:00.853-05:00Dutchman6 said: "Gotta be honest, I don't...Dutchman6 said: "Gotta be honest, I don't know what to make of the dude. However, if he does in fact serve as a John Parker, I got no bitch. I'm of the opinion that patriots, what few are left, need a kick in the ass to get started."<br /><br />Mike, this is just a question, but do you know anything more about Kokesh than what he's got planned for the DC armed march? Do you know that he is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood? Did you know that one of his most reliable allies is Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink? Did you know that the radio show that most media outlets refer to when they say he's a "radio talk show host" is RT, or "Russia Today?"<br /><br />I'd be happy to provide documentation for my assertions if you need (or want) it. I believe that the Philly arrest and prosecution is trumped up to try to "disappear" him until July 4 comes and goes, and as such, of course I don't support the Philly, PA or federal LE agents involved in it. That said, Adam Kokesh is a propagandist, much more comparable to Van Jones than to John Parker. He is not someone Patriots need to follow. He's an Alinskyite, not a 2A advocate. His goal is to use America's rules against her, not to protect or preserve them. Patriots would be better off ignoring him than getting distracted by his antics.<br /><br />YMMV.CzarChasmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777389581291018787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-80278503587487039942013-05-27T12:51:10.973-05:002013-05-27T12:51:10.973-05:00Mike - excellent analysis and refutation of the &#...Mike - excellent analysis and refutation of the 'plan' to 'march' on DC. Bringing the 'fight' to them (either literally or metaphorically) essentially cedes that moral high ground to them. We MUST get them to initiate the latest 'intolerable act'.<br />BTW - as I was recently reminded, Paul Revere's oft misquoted line was not 'the British are coming' (they were all considered British Citizens then) - it was actually 'the Regulars are coming'. A very important distinction that we would be well served to heed - WE must make them come to us (ie as you stated 'dance to our tune') Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-64632468656845651232013-05-27T12:16:45.902-05:002013-05-27T12:16:45.902-05:00No Mike, nothing was directed at you personally. I...No Mike, nothing was directed at you personally. I've heard the "No Fort Sumter" cry from more than a few corners of community. Whether it originated with you or not, I could care less.<br /><br />But since we're on the subject, I do think it is important to understand that before the attack began, Confederate negotiators met with the Federal command in the fort about their repositioning of troops when it was previously agreed that all troop dispositions remain in place while talks were still going on.<br /><br />Was it a reason to start a war? Dunno. But that fact of the matter is that it was.<br /><br />So, here we are. Understand, I'm not jazzed about fighting anybody over anything. I've managed to make it into my sixities with all my parts and pieces still functioning properly. I thank God for that blessing. And while I have arrived at this point with virtually everything, I didn't arrive here with my country. Something that I gave eight years of my life to serve. Something that I love very much.<br /><br />I'm reasonably sure I'm not alone with regard to my feeling of lost country. I've conversed and met many of like mind. I even shook your hand once upon a time. Therefore, a bunch does exist that possess a common view of a problem. The angst comes in with how to solve the problem.<br /><br />You are quite certain of what you believe to be the way forward. So do I. I think at this point physical confrontation is necessary. The Kokesh dude has called for such action. The last thing I read was that five thousand are on board with the gig. I'm not convinced that the way it's advertised to go down is the right way to do it, but I am down with a large number of armed citizens protesting in Washbington D.C. So to that extent I support it. It's physical confrontation. It's breaking a few laws. I support it.<br /><br />Now, I understand you have a few things planned to go out and confront authority and break a few laws. I support those endeavors as well. In fact, the possibility of me standing with you in Colorado, or New Jersey, or Massachusetts, or Connecticut is a possibility. Just as I might show up in D.C.<br /><br />I guess what this is all coming down to is what makes your actions so rightous while those of others are not? I know more than a few people that think you're nuts and your planned actions are a detriment to the cause just like I know people that think Kokesh is a nut and his actions are a detriment to the cause.<br /><br />My view is that whatever could happen at Kokesh's event could happen at yours. And any particular event could be "the event". This is not a game played on a chess board of only 64 squares where outcomes are finite. This gig is real life and the possibilities are infinite. Nobody knows the order of battle. Not even you.Alan W. Mullenaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084509138950656937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-38883212140222381622013-05-27T12:15:37.072-05:002013-05-27T12:15:37.072-05:00Kokesh is a fake at best, a false flag Obomunist a...Kokesh is a fake at best, a false flag Obomunist at the worst. Let the bum march alone into DC and see what his "kin" do to him. <br /><br />Many of us vets will know when it is time to act, we don't need some half-cocked wannabe loon to tell us OR lead us.Gunny Ghttp://www.theantiliberalzone.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-87085538045321134952013-05-27T11:11:18.335-05:002013-05-27T11:11:18.335-05:00Kokesh is obviously a mental case.
What I can&#...Kokesh is obviously a mental case. <br /><br />What I can't understand is how anyone could read MV's writings and then think Kokesh's proposed stunt makes any sense at all. The closest analogy to Kokesh I can think of is Custer's "strategy" at Little Bighorn, but that's paying this idiotic plan too much respect.Charles N. Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591239571590092531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-23983091656932226332013-05-27T11:03:56.227-05:002013-05-27T11:03:56.227-05:00I've never been to war, still war is the last ...I've never been to war, still war is the last thing we want.<br /><br />chevyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-46112143871328054292013-05-27T11:03:36.732-05:002013-05-27T11:03:36.732-05:00I've never seen war but I damned well don'...I've never seen war but I damned well don't call for it. I expect it; <b>HAVE</b> expected it for most of a decade. But I never want to see it.<br /><br />My son has seen war (he unloaded the first shipload of supplies for Desert Storm). So has his Father-in-law (in the Nam. all it cost him was his knees). None of us want it. You see, the three of us all have grandchildren. We all have a very food idea of what a civil war would mean for those grandchildren. We also have a pretty good idea of what <b>NO</b> civil war would mean for them. But I greatly fear that while Kokesh's "demonstration" might well set off a war, it would likely also set more than a few potential oath keepers irrevocably against the rebels' cause. That is why "No Fort Sumters" is such an all-important principle. A "Fort Sumter" type even would delegitimize the insurgent's cause - for many irreparably - to a large number of active duty armed forces members who might otherwise have sided with them. Neither Kokesh nor his shill, Mullenax appear to be capable understanding that. They also fail to understand the principle articulated so perfectly in Ecclesiastes 3:1-22 "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-85382022789101721522013-05-27T10:24:01.470-05:002013-05-27T10:24:01.470-05:00Adam Kokesh marching into D.C. is just what the DO...Adam Kokesh marching into D.C. is just what the DOJ ordered. Now they can assign anyone and everyone even tangentially connected "co-conspirator" status and shift their eavesdropping and electronic investigations into overdrive.<br /><br />The Stasi Police would be so proud.<br /><br />Remember, the regime has already decided that WE ARE THE ENEMY. They're already at WAR with US.<br /><br />Adam Kokesh is providing opportunity and reason to escalate their attacks. A very poor tactic to use against a strategically and logistically superior force already deployed on the battle field.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-640496541336391152013-05-27T10:01:45.101-05:002013-05-27T10:01:45.101-05:00mike, this kind of thinking is why i come back aga...mike, this kind of thinking is why i come back again and again. keep it up, we're with you. bryanbrass bryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-10604923693255181462013-05-27T10:00:00.856-05:002013-05-27T10:00:00.856-05:00"...their successful template of liberty.&quo..."...their successful template of liberty."<br /><br />You gotta be kidding, Mike. So if it's successful, then what's everyone yapping about?<br /><br />And no, Ray, I didn't notice that. Is that about Alan or just a wild generalization? What I did notice, though, is that men who thought they were fighting for America and liberty, were ultimately under the orders of men sending them into battle for reasons altogether different.<br /><br />There are exactly two choices now---brutal, ugly war with its attendant destruction, or VERY clear thinking with its attendant creation and production. Pretending that we had a "successful template of liberty," but are now on the edge of fullblown tyranny anyway, is neither; it's just plain fantasy.pelletfarmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-13627701808957014232013-05-27T09:59:51.104-05:002013-05-27T09:59:51.104-05:00It seems that virtually everyone has forgotten how...It seems that virtually everyone has forgotten how to play chess.<br /><br />You must be careful in chess. You can lose, and lose big by being overly aggressive.Paul W. Davisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-68951969488314290272013-05-27T09:48:42.908-05:002013-05-27T09:48:42.908-05:00If you are considering following Adam Kokesh's...If you are considering following Adam Kokesh's armed march on D.C., this is something to consider:<br /><br />http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/05/armed-march-leader-adam-kokesh-arrested-at-marijuana-rally-real-or-staged/<br /><br />Adam says the point of the march is to prove that we really don't have any freedom in D.C. and the hypocrisy of the law. Well, we already know that. So what's the point? You will be photographed with super-high definition cameras giving intel to the enemy.<br /><br />And if shooting does start, do you want to be in a kill box on the bridge?<br /><br />There will be a time to march on D.C. and it won't be for a peaceful show of force. And hopefully it will not be lead by an Adam Kokesh.<br /><br />I'd recommend you keep gathering your own intel rather than giving it up to the thugs & criminals. And let them put themselves in a kill box, not you.WarriorClass IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886225964895730489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-91653690267690028112013-05-27T09:00:36.920-05:002013-05-27T09:00:36.920-05:00I don't believe for a minute that there are fe...I don't believe for a minute that there are fewer patriots left. Think about all the tens of millions that have served who return to civilian life. I think it is the objective media and academia that has disappeared. I honestly can't think of one person I know that doesn't love this country. You are known by the company you keep, so please don't support this "attention whore".Robinnoreply@blogger.com