tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post4110493023335885959..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Praxis: Afghans Rediscover The Lee-EnfieldDutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-48804983898433663802009-01-24T01:45:00.000-06:002009-01-24T01:45:00.000-06:00I'd like to add my comments in favor of Appleseed....I'd like to add my comments in favor of Appleseed.<BR/>When you have Rifleman ability(military expert level) you will be able to hit man sized targets out to 600 yards with your 7.62 nato, 30-06, .303, or 7.62x54r class cartriges.<BR/>I can say this from personal experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-46970093499314596992009-01-23T16:59:00.000-06:002009-01-23T16:59:00.000-06:00Re: TomI apologize if my earlier reply sounded too...Re: Tom<BR/><BR/>I apologize if my earlier reply sounded too critical. I didn't mean it to sound that way. Since we brought up Charlie Quintard and his lone battle against the predators, I just wanted to point out that just because the other side has big, intimidating weapons, it doesn't mean it's hopeless. Tactical ingenuity and sharpness of mind often wins the day.<BR/><BR/>Back to the topic on hand, of course, speaking of the motley of weapons and ammunition that currently exists, don't be surprised to see lots of .45-70s showing up at the concert to provide a steady supply of baritone and bass. Whether it be Trapdoors, Falling Blocks or Rolling Blocks, the .45-70 is probably THE representation of a long range cartridge. The key question here now is the optics. A high powered varmint scope, 6-24x power mounted on a Rolling block or M1875 Trapdoor instantly produces a 1st-Class marksman's rifle. Perhaps DMs can be outfitted with .45-70s instead of the various .30 calibers, and the .30s can be assigned to the tactical marksmen.<BR/><BR/>Also about the availability of munitions, the .45-70 can be reloaded without any special tools, just a dowel, case rack and hammer for pressing, and maybe throw in a hand-held primer feed. The cases can be reloaded at least 10 times, maybe more. A case trimmer and re-sizing tool don't weigh that much and can be included with the quartermaster of any DM squad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-24443006231577256702009-01-23T02:53:00.000-06:002009-01-23T02:53:00.000-06:00Mike, if possible, please organize links to all of...Mike, if possible, please organize links to all of your Praxis articles in one link list on your home page so they can serve as a ready reference section. And keep up the good work! <BR/><BR/>Ever thought of making short "Praxis" videos and posting them online? Now that would be useful - readers could email them all over creation and spread the knowledge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-72283312506547161242009-01-22T17:27:00.000-06:002009-01-22T17:27:00.000-06:00Qi:I'd state that as "...may get you one, with a b...<B>Qi:</B><BR/><BR/>I'd state that as "...may get you one, with a bit of luck and the right circumstances."<BR/><BR/>I'll stand by what I said:<BR/><BR/>The importance of that article is the Afghans are learning the importance of marksmanship once again. It isn't a SMLE advert.<BR/><BR/>Go try to sneak up on somebody with a knife, bow, or a SMLE in the Wichita Falls area, for example.tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230665595988628546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-35671699094425948312009-01-22T15:17:00.000-06:002009-01-22T15:17:00.000-06:00QUOTE "Charlie Quintard may have gone up against M...QUOTE "Charlie Quintard may have gone up against MP-5s with a bow in a novel. I've got modern compound bows and am pretty good with them. I'd still, under most contexts, rather have a good accurate rifle bordering on match accuracy at the very least than a bow if people were shooting guns at me." QUOTE<BR/><BR/>It really boils down to tactical planning and awareness of the situation. Charlie Quintard's battle against the thugs were effective because the forest is his tactical concealment. I doubt Charlie would do the same in a desert or in a wide open Midwest prairie. An MP-5 or an M-4 might be a big weapon to go up against, to some, but whats controlling it is still a human being. To quote someone "A knife or an axe is not a battle rifle, but it will get you one".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-86370294258229116252009-01-22T14:28:00.000-06:002009-01-22T14:28:00.000-06:00You're right, straightarrow, my brain wasn't worki...You're right, straightarrow, my brain wasn't working that way at the time I wrote it out. I don't plan to shoot much commercial ammo in it though, so it shouldn't be an issue.<BR/><BR/>Since I don't know what the "pumpkin on a post" is, I'm guessing not, or they decided not to do it that day.Lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14843550881990596267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-39737600622524387122009-01-22T12:51:00.000-06:002009-01-22T12:51:00.000-06:00Pat H.Wasn't aiming to start a war. Just was sayi...Pat H.<BR/><BR/>Wasn't aiming to start a war. Just was saying if you had an AR and could find the requisites, it's not a bad thing to have and a lot nicer than a curio and relic Enfield as far as rifles go. <BR/><BR/>If you run out of Grendel and need 5.56/.223 uppers and mags, it's not like there won't be plenty to be had off of dead people.<BR/><BR/>Like it or not, if the US government goes to war against the American people, it's going to be with Ar-15s, M rifles, and MP-5s. <BR/><BR/>Grendel would make a good DM rifle or upper for those that can shoot well enough to justify it with plenty of parts availability outside of the barrel and bolt and the brass can be sized from other things if need be. If need be it can end it's life as a 5.56mm upper equipped rifle in a Restoration War. Takes about 30 seconds to trade uppers and bolt carriers provided they are of the same pin size. If that's too much hassle, just take the Stoner pattern rifle and mags as is off the dead guy.<BR/><BR/>No caliber war at all was started. Just pointing out the obvious. As far as squad commonality, having a ragtag bunch with some 7.62 semi and bolt rifles in American and Russian, some SKS, some AKs, Some Enfields, Some Mausers, with the odd Springfield and M1 thrown in and maybe some old Krags along with all the Mini-14s and ARs isn't going to be doing much for logistical support and as YOU said, most people have their rifle already. There may be a militia of citizens but it's far from well-regulated or at all organized in ammo commonality. You will find that an even greater problem with sidearms.<BR/><BR/>If I was going to buy a .308/7.62, there's been a few design improvements available in the bolt rifle section of your local Walmart over the Lee Enfield. They don't cost much either. Afghans are using Enfields and Nagants because they don't have modern sporting gun shops to go to or even walmarts, not because it's the bee's knees of rifles. <BR/><BR/>In .303 you're going to be looking at the same limited ammo availability in the US as you would with a wildcat like the Grendel in very short order if people started shooting a lot of it.<BR/><BR/>I read the article on Afghans re-learning to snipe as what it was, that they are re-learning the value of marksmanship, and not as an advertisement for antique rifles.<BR/><BR/>My neighbor can split playing cards in half and all sorts of other tricks with his home-made muzzle loader, which, if need be he could make his own powder for as he already casts his own bullets. I wouldn't select that as my primary sniping arm either if I had more modern choices.<BR/><BR/>Charlie Quintard may have gone up against MP-5s with a bow in a novel. I've got modern compound bows and am pretty good with them. I'd still, under most contexts, rather have a good accurate rifle bordering on match accuracy at the very least than a bow if people were shooting guns at me.tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230665595988628546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-32824088614463828152009-01-21T23:38:00.000-06:002009-01-21T23:38:00.000-06:00Loren: Are they still teaching "Pumkin on a Post"...Loren: Are they still teaching "Pumkin on a Post" over there at Appleseed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-49226631502861670652009-01-21T22:33:00.000-06:002009-01-21T22:33:00.000-06:00Actually the Ishapore isn't .308. It is 7.62 NATO....Actually the Ishapore isn't .308. It is 7.62 NATO. Almost a distinction without a difference, but not quite. Though .308 and 7.62NATO are dimensinally identical the .308 round is slightly more powerful. There are some who say continued use of .308 in the Ihapore Enfield can stretch the action over time and result in structural failure. <BR/><BR/>I only offer that as a heads-up that there might be a problem. I haven't had a problem with mine shooting .308. I would advise anyone to do something with the buttplate. It is a stupid design. It is convex in the vertical axis causing all the recoil to tap you on the collarbone in an area about the width of pencil and the perpendicular area of width of your collarbone. Hurts like a bastard. Unlike a Mosin which recoils harder but has a buttplate that spreads the force over a large area is fairly pleasant to shoot. Unless you shoot like a girl and hold the butt against your upper arm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-18189176216481660492009-01-21T17:51:00.000-06:002009-01-21T17:51:00.000-06:00Told mikeb302000 we were friendly...we even let a ...Told mikeb302000 we were friendly...we even let a permanent anti-gun blogger in here and his posts are approved by the moderator...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Regards to misguided Italian ex-pats from people that are trying to hang on to a bit of the free world.<BR/><BR/>Maybe someday you'll let reality catch up with you.<BR/><BR/>Thomastomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230665595988628546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-78517415075854144732009-01-21T16:52:00.000-06:002009-01-21T16:52:00.000-06:00We're not going to get into a Grendel/SPC/.308/.22...We're not going to get into a Grendel/SPC/.308/.223 argument are we? It's a bit late in the game to get a whole new caliber, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Many people already have their battle rifle and cartridge chosen. It might be a bit late in the game to go switching calibers and rifles. That is, unless you can afford a rifle, at least a dozen magazines, all the necessary spare parts in triplicate, and at least 10,000 rounds of FMJ. Multiply that by however many buddies in your squad if you want ammo/rifle commonality, and it gets to be a little bit daunting, not to mention cost prohibitive for many. Hell, even if you have an accurate 5.56 AR with everything mentioned above (although you don't need 10,000 rounds, because ammo is much more common than Grendel), and can reliably hit out to 500 yards and beyond (using heavy match ammunition, of course), then that's better than switching to something else.<BR/><BR/>Plus, for now, basically everything anybody is offering, including rifles and ammo, is backordered for months.<BR/><BR/>It would have been wise to switch perhaps last year, or the year before. But, it's a bit too late now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-3004036328119173272009-01-21T16:35:00.000-06:002009-01-21T16:35:00.000-06:00Enfields were reworked in the 50s for .308, and a ...Enfields were reworked in the 50s for .308, and a bunch were made by India for their police. They're called Ishapores, or I think Mk 5s, but if anyone has one in Missouri they'd be willing to part with, I'll pay good money for it.<BR/><BR/>Iron sights are particularly interesting in light of one of the Army's new doo-hickies, which scans with a laser, and is claimed to be able to distinguish between cameras and windows and rifle scopes.Lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14843550881990596267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-21278195131231664762009-01-21T14:23:00.000-06:002009-01-21T14:23:00.000-06:00I'm glad I acquired a SMLE redone for .308 about a...I'm glad I acquired a SMLE redone for .308 about a year ago...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-25392043339277119872009-01-21T13:31:00.000-06:002009-01-21T13:31:00.000-06:00If you want to have a semi-automatic that outshoot...If you want to have a semi-automatic that outshoots a .303 and hits harder at range than 7.62 NATO, Try a 6.5 Grendel upper for your AR.<BR/><BR/>Most people here already have ARs and I've been quite happy since I took the plunge and made one of my ARs capable of shooting a bench rest chambering. You'll hit past 500, easily....If YOU can live up to the rifle.<BR/><BR/>AR parts and maintenance is simpler than Enfield/Springfield/Mauser parts and maintenance. I own all of the above including the 19th century black powder versions...might not be an "expert" but I have a hell of a lot of empirical experience with everything that ever fired black powder, black powder metallic cartridges, and modern metallic cartridges.<BR/><BR/>The Grendel is a very nice compromise that gives you a deadly accurate semi-auto battle rifle that can be easily used as such, all but a very few parts swap with anything on your standard ARs and "M"s,and that you can win long range shooting matches hunt or snipe with. It outshoots the 6.8SPC handily for people that are curious. I've tried multiple versions of both. Grendel wins hands down past 300 yards and stomps the M1A1 as well.tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230665595988628546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-38397111950567319672009-01-21T13:05:00.000-06:002009-01-21T13:05:00.000-06:00The Martini Henry, the Sharps, and the various Rol...The Martini Henry, the Sharps, and the various Rolling Blocks can all hit up to more than 1500 yards.<BR/><BR/>One of the rifles mentioned here, outfitted with 21st century optics and guidance devices, would make a far better precision rifle than the fancy mall ninja toys that currently sell on the market for more than a week's salary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-79982300977250689022009-01-21T10:24:00.000-06:002009-01-21T10:24:00.000-06:001st post anonymous, if you haven't been to an Appl...1st post anonymous, if you haven't been to an Appleseed shoot, you should go. It's the best 80 bucks you'll spend on marksmanship.<BR/><BR/>http://www.appleseedinfo.org/<BR/><BR/>They teach you to shoot out to 500 yards.<BR/><BR/>Boston T. Party mentions the Afghans and their effective rifle-fire several times in Boston's Gun Bible. That's why he advocates the use of .30 caliber battle rifles over smaller caliber carbines, even if that battle rifle is an old surplus bolt-action, such as a Mosin-Nagant, or SMLE. So that accurate, powerful rifle fire can be used from hundreds of yards out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-8206838788109193882009-01-21T06:58:00.000-06:002009-01-21T06:58:00.000-06:00Thanks for that fantastic history. Great post.Thanks for that fantastic history. Great post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806175370305006933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-43759718675026600532009-01-21T05:40:00.000-06:002009-01-21T05:40:00.000-06:00Apparently, I am just behind the Afghan learning c...Apparently, I am just behind the Afghan learning curve. I have just outfitted both of my Lee-Enfields (No. 4) with the rear micrometer sights and properly adjusted the front sight height by replacing them as needed with parts from ebay. I now have a pair of "iron sight" battle rifles that I am accurate and consistent with at 200 yards. Next goal, 300. - Memphis67Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com