tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post9014598173525622647..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: "A Simple Matter of Force": Olofson, Legitimacy & Longing for Fort Sumter.Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-31386373030461503972013-01-08T12:59:02.868-06:002013-01-08T12:59:02.868-06:00The question is not who has fired the first shot, ...The question is not who has fired the first shot, they have: Ruby Ridge, at Waco. Our only question is how will we respond to the next Ruby Ridge. I know how we responded to the others. When we did nothing, McVeigh did it for us. Is that the way we want it to go again?<br /><br />As to moral high-ground it is taken like any other military objective, you win the battle first and write the history second. Until then, we are all criminals. Get used to it.T.L. Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06751425084581610325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-27416595922878642682009-05-08T03:06:00.000-05:002009-05-08T03:06:00.000-05:00I was thinking of your Fort Sumter ref when I wrot...I was thinking of your Fort Sumter ref when I wrote in Push (a March entry at my blog):<br /><br />'They will see how far they can push us to violence. These Freedom suckers want us to trip ourselves. Our enemies desire us to perform some egregious act that would precipitate crackdown. We must endrun THEM.'<br /><br />Perhaps it's easy to say 'prepare for the worst and hope for the best'. Or perhaps not.<br /><br />Or they deconstruct, we reconstruct.Mike Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02330656826267706631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-45940878209685579352009-05-08T02:59:00.000-05:002009-05-08T02:59:00.000-05:00"Personally, I can assure folks that I have no per..."Personally, I can assure folks that I have no personal desire to experience the privations of prolonged field action. But if it comes down to it, and daily my prayers are that it does not, there are only two ways home: Victory or death."<br /><br />////////////<br /><br />Well said sir.deadboltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-35094033687794886502009-05-06T22:18:00.000-05:002009-05-06T22:18:00.000-05:00The war, or "second shot heard around the world" a...The war, or "second shot heard around the world" are not as likely as some fear. <br /><br />Remember this, most of us are peaceable and only want to be left alone with our rights intact. So, we are not anxious to do something so horrific as start a shooting war against our own.<br /><br />Now remember a couple more things. Waco and Ruby Ridge. That's right, another Waco or Ruby Ridge will not start the shooting war. Why? Because, just like the first times, it will not be known until after it is over and the thugs have fled back to their lairs that what they did was outside the law and criminal. By then the propaganda machine will have convinced the majority that what they did was reasonable and justified. Remember?<br /><br />That didn't fool some of us, but remember how we were vilified and marginalized? Remember how long it has taken most of those who now see it as we saw it?<br /><br />No, this will be a war that is not fought until the most timid of us has lost all hope. Sorry, but that is the way it is. <br /><br />Some of us may run out of patience, but we will be considered lunatics and buried in ignominy. Tough town that ignominy.straightarrownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-73653567927282861352009-05-06T17:38:00.000-05:002009-05-06T17:38:00.000-05:00Thank you for expressing what I have been trying t...Thank you for expressing what I have been trying to explain to so many. War is a horrible thing, civil war doubly so, and yet people who have never had a shot fired within miles of them are advocating it. <br /><br />"Unsufferable" means exactly what it sounds like, and as long as there is a *chance* to change things in the way outlined in the constitution, we should pursue peaceful means.<br /><br />Make no mistake though, people will vote their conscience, either with a ballot or a bullet if the ballot is denied.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-60817756801246872402009-05-06T16:11:00.000-05:002009-05-06T16:11:00.000-05:00As Anonymous (24th comment) brought living and dyi...As Anonymous (24th comment) brought living and dying by the sword into the discussion, I would offer this for consideration instead:<br /><br />In preparation of the defense of self, others, and the Constitution against those who would <B>enslave</B> a free people, I would offer these verses of Scripture for those who profess Christ:<br /><br />Psalm 144:1-2: 1. Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. 2. My goodness, My mercy, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me.<br /><br />These happen to be very appropo for the times....and we <B>should</B> be learning to war and fight...<br /><br />We should <B>not</B> strike first, this is sound. The South lost because they struck first, as Mike has so studiously pointed out on more than one occassion.<br /><br />However, as to avoiding aggression, no we should <B>fight as lions</B> when the time comes. Timidity and its cousin Complacency kills; and we should be praying daily that God intervene, because this war will be fought <B>here</B>, in our home towns.<br /><br />As for dying by the sword, well, it's better than dying of cancer, and to para-quote a real Hero of the War of Northern Agression, General Thomas Jackson, CSA, "The Lord has appointed the time of my death; nothing can change that. I am as safe on the battlefield as I am in my own bed."Doc Enigmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-42764363320781475852009-05-06T10:58:00.000-05:002009-05-06T10:58:00.000-05:00In Luke 22:, verses 36-38 seem to conflict with ve...In Luke 22:, verses 36-38 seem to conflict with verses 49-51. But they reaffirm the message in Mike's response to which we here refer. <br /><br />In his own words, our Lord said, "As of today, whenever you follow me, you will be an outlaw in need of defending yourself from the world." His words, "Suffer ye this far" (v. 51) said in four words everything Mike said in his response to anonymous. <br /><br />As Christians, we must hold the moral high ground by avoiding aggression. Those who live by the sword will certainly die by the sword. Our object in war is to make the other guy bleed, but only in self-defense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-48483386566594702852009-05-06T10:06:00.000-05:002009-05-06T10:06:00.000-05:00Now that everyone has thrown in their two cents, h...Now that everyone has thrown in their two cents, here's mine. All the good intentions and preparations in the world are not going to prevent what I see happening. Their are millions of people,temperments,situations. Someone,somewhere,sometime, it's going to flare up on its' own, like a lightning strike in the deep woods, and no one will be able to control it. Sure, it could be set up by either side, and usually is, but there are so many variables, so many powderkegs to ignite, it's inevitable. An accident waiting to happen. III.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410045398729979497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-9785343324352477332009-05-06T07:40:00.000-05:002009-05-06T07:40:00.000-05:00Mk. 106 has left a new comment on your post "...Mk. 106 has left a new comment on your post ""A Simple Matter of Force": Olofson, Legitimacy & ...": <br /><br />"I have never been a soldier, and naturally have never seen war. I have however, studied war and military history in one form or another since I was 8 years old, reading history books in grade school when I was supposed to be doing my classwork. I think Mike is walking a very dangerous path, but from what I read here, I think he is a good man. He is dead right when he says that anybody who WANTS this fight is a fool. A fool and his life which may soon be parted. Here is what I see. ALL of the momentum is on the leftist's side. Victory against them in any arena, be it political or military is impossible at this point. But at some point, when they reach the absolute peak of their power, somebody will start shooting. The shooting will be sporadic and unorganized and everybody involved will DIE. Depending on th ecircumstances, I may be one of them. But ONLY when I am forced to stand between them and those that I love. After that example is set, no one will think of shooting again for along time. Until the starvation. Until the camps. Until the purges. Until western civilization has collapsed to the point that the state can no longer sustain itself, and weakens to the point that it is finally vulnerable to uprising. Then, only then, if there are any people left with the spirit and the means to fight, could the state be defeated. But the mechanism to prevent that will already be in place. Islam." <br /><br />MK. 106: Why do don't you just go ahead right now AND SLIT YOU'RE FRIGGING, DEFEATIST WRISTS? -- VanderboeghMK 106/Vanderboeghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-2687708381962166952009-05-06T06:58:00.000-05:002009-05-06T06:58:00.000-05:00With Montana's passing of their "guns made here ar...With Montana's passing of their "guns made here are <B>NOT</B> under federal jurisdiction law, the discussion of what may or may not be a Fort Sumter class incident or how long people put up with usurpation after usurpation and abuse may be moot in short order. <br /><br />Surely, if the feds raid or fire upon on Montanan law enforcement or citizens who are acting within the confines of <B>Montana law</B>, they will have fired the second, "shot heard round the world", wouldn't you think?<br /><br />Montana very well could find itself being the second "Lexington".<br /><br />Personally, I can assure folks that I have no personal desire to experience the privations of prolonged field action. But if it comes down to it, and daily my prayers are that it does not, there are only two ways home: Victory or death.MPA-IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-2182326091868582992009-05-06T01:09:00.000-05:002009-05-06T01:09:00.000-05:00Brock, interpret this please.
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...Brock, interpret this please.<br /><br />//////////////////<br /><br />A CALL-TREE TEST FOR THE ALARM & MUSTER HAS BEEN INITIATED<br /><br />AT 7:30 PM EST FOR THE FOLLOWING REGIONS:<br /><br />MIDWEST<br />SOUTH<br />SOUTHEAST<br /><br />ALARMANDMUSTER.COM WILL RETURN AFTER THE CALL TEST IS COMPLETE!!!deadboltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-4653475351219858672009-05-05T22:41:00.000-05:002009-05-05T22:41:00.000-05:00Structure creates targets.
The only organization ...Structure creates targets.<br /><br />The only organization that is needed operationally is a small and trusted group of men and women, each of whom would die for the other.<br /><br />Because you'll have to....Concerned Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05257709418390025182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-45178642006635590282009-05-05T22:09:00.000-05:002009-05-05T22:09:00.000-05:00As Rev. Jonas Clark, a preacher, Patriot and eyewi...As Rev. Jonas Clark, a preacher, Patriot and eyewitness of the Battle of Lexington put it, it's absurd that 60-70 colonial militiamen would start a fight with 800 crack English troops. <br /><br />My pastor read Rev. Clark's account of April 19th as part of his April 19th Patriot Day sermon, "Render Unto Caesar; Render Unto God"<br /><br />http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/sermonvideo.phpLuke (alias "Lines With Chrome")https://www.blogger.com/profile/17379226645058693716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-2350182476966198962009-05-05T21:37:00.000-05:002009-05-05T21:37:00.000-05:00"Because what happens the moment after that shot i..."Because what happens the moment after that shot is fired is so horrible than any sane person would do anything to avoid it."<br /><br />Thank you. I have been wondering about some of the threepers and I really hope they take the above to heart. A shooting war is the last recourse for honorable men and it is something I fervently hope my wife and kids will never have to see.<br /><br />I do not worship your gods and I do not count on divine intervention or providence. My reason, understanding of history, human nature and the mathematics of chaos tells me that this is a battle best won by willingness to fight. If they think I am bluffing and the bullets fly then only the carrion eaters will win -- at least in the short run.<br /><br />Bobo's popularity is mostly a product of a lapdog media and a small but well organized cadre of Bobots. If (when) the guano really hits the turbine those approval ratings will disappear like saccharine in hot coffee leaving behind only a bad aftertatse. The odds still favor "our" side. They have to win; We only have to not lose.Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-62016027534679632009-05-05T20:52:00.000-05:002009-05-05T20:52:00.000-05:00"Being a Christian has its solaces and one of them..."Being a Christian has its solaces and one of them is the realization that all of this is in God's hands. We must stand, but the outcome is subject to His will. What will happen, is what will happen. But we do not serve God or man or the Founders' Republic or even our own selfish prospects for victory if we fire first."<br /><br />Amen to that. As a young father of 3 innocent and beautiful lives, I pray that God stay's His hand and keeps us all from this. However, being a student of history and listening to my father who trained me, I know that God was present at the Revolution and that it still happened - this gives me some comfort. I know that whatever happens, I can rely on Him to give me the strength I need to follow my convictions, utilize what I have been taught by my father, and do the right thing for my family or my nation.<br /><br />I pray we will win in the 'soft war' and He will soften the hearts of many and bring them an awakening of the danger our nation is in, but if it ever comes to the ugliness -God forbid - , I pray that God strengthens us all.<br /><br />No Fort Sumpters. Keep to the high road.<br /><br />~Fawkesblahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03643936352809712461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-54394291016300764022009-05-05T19:05:00.000-05:002009-05-05T19:05:00.000-05:00"One area that we desperately need is some fo..."One area that we desperately need is some form of organization. I think the safety committees are the ticket but somehow we also need to keep the whole thing under the radar. Our ancestors had the advantage of slow moving information. We don't have that luxury. Everything moves faster and further today. We have to adapt."<br /><br />An excellent idea, I believe.<br />Alarm & Muster<br />http://www.alarmandmuster.com/Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-9448881854307889102009-05-05T16:48:00.000-05:002009-05-05T16:48:00.000-05:00I thank you for the cautionary statements.
I rea...I thank you for the cautionary statements. <br /><br />I read a book in which Arthur asks Lancelot (I believe) to give him the summation of their lengthy war. "Half a baby in a ditch."<br /><br />That is what comes to my mind every time I consider the Possible.<br /><br />Let us wait as long as we can. Because even those who have been there, done that - don't wish to do it again...LauraBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07597941562529910169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-81973757451712412032009-05-05T16:30:00.000-05:002009-05-05T16:30:00.000-05:00from what i have gathered so far from this comment...from what i have gathered so far from this commentary, the issue at hand is that the majority of us give credit to the MSM for painting the picture of the current state of affairs, as well as the next one, as well as historical ones.<br /><br />fair enough, given the evidence of our eyes. however: stop this.<br /><br />stop thinking of this in a <I>defeatist sense</I>, yourselves, and file the facts away to act upon.<br /><br />but more importantly, act: stop it! put an actual end to this devious practice of theirs: help provide the unorganized militia propaganda corps with a greater level of influence in society. forget independent or objective retelling, accept that humankind is dogmatic and not doctrinaire. if belief and opinion governs us all, then let us clear the air of lies upon lies, set a good example, and let the beliefs follow.<br /><br />if we can accomplish this, we have already won.<br /><br />for every little thing the MSM flat out gets wrong or intentionally misrepresents, there is work to do.<br /><br />for every piece of trash on their streets, the open-carry free state folks in new hampshire are picking it up. where is the clutter in the political sphere?<br /><br />we, too, can redefine what it means to control guns.<br /><br />we, too, can redefine what it means to put an end to gun violence.<br /><br />our beliefs stand for life, love and liberty. our god is The God. their god is, who, or what?<br /><br />do they even know?jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615104086703717817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-86350116441148545822009-05-05T16:19:00.000-05:002009-05-05T16:19:00.000-05:00I see the phrase "I'm not backing up any farther" ...I see the phrase "I'm not backing up any farther" a lot. I use that phrase. I mean it. Certainly I would rather not have any trouble at all. It looks as if trouble will come looking for US. I think we'll all have the opportunity to be statutory felons with the AW ban renewal or the international small arms treaty. Then we'll see how much is to be control through mere intimidation and example-making and how much is to be control through physical force against us. <br /> "The die" is half of a pair of dice. They're playing craps with the Constitution, and the gaming piece is loaded in their favor. We don't get to roll, we can only see how it falls when THEY throw (cast) it. Obviously we're paying close attention. That matters. We won't be surprised in any military, tactical sense. We know too well how they think.Defendernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-41273243875671271562009-05-05T15:08:00.000-05:002009-05-05T15:08:00.000-05:00Full agreement.
To both sides.
The heat is bei...Full agreement.<br /><br />To both sides. <br /><br />The heat is being added and we don't have the means to maintain the high ground. <br /><br />The People aren't hungry enough, cold enough, wet enough, without shelter enough, or BORED enough to support those of us that are standing by. I pray that this administration is able to pull off whatever agenda they actually have as then I think the people will see that we NEED TO REBEL. <br /><br />Divided we stand, together we rise. A motto from the IRA that sings in my head on occasion. I think it applies to us.Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06728053309068254820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-8773461827300213282009-05-05T15:03:00.000-05:002009-05-05T15:03:00.000-05:00The masses aren't hungry or cold or wet enough. ...The masses aren't hungry or cold or wet enough. The PTB are definitely leading us to that road. Until The People are uncomfortable with living conditions we haven't a chance. <br />I am so ready to draw blood and I haven't the means at this point to continue stocking up thanks to this administration. But I wait. I know that the time is not now. Yes they keep turning up the heat on us, Yes we keep giving a little ground, yes they keep thinking that we aren't going to do anything. They aren't right. <br />One area that we desperately need is some form of organization. I think the safety committees are the ticket but somehow we also need to keep the whole thing under the radar. Our ancestors had the advantage of slow moving information. We don't have that luxury. Everything moves faster and further today. We have to adapt. <br /><br />No answers here but many questions.Diogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06728053309068254820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-88690498953653631582009-05-05T14:48:00.000-05:002009-05-05T14:48:00.000-05:00Sorry, J. Croft, edit the insults out and you migh...Sorry, J. Croft, edit the insults out and you might get posted. As it is, get your own blog. Interesting IP address.<br /><br />VanderboeghDutchman6https://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-59265295950381563862009-05-05T14:31:00.000-05:002009-05-05T14:31:00.000-05:00I admit to being scared. I admit to having been s...I admit to being scared. I admit to having been scared for quite some time. But the phrase you used: "...live my life so my death is a homecoming..." has buoyed me as no other.<br /><br />Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.<br /><br />IIIrexxheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578166996312186309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-13525740432881792442009-05-05T14:18:00.000-05:002009-05-05T14:18:00.000-05:00As to Brock's assertion.
The same could be said a...As to Brock's assertion.<br /><br />The same could be said about FDR.<br /><br />We purposefully cutoff Japan's oil in Southeast Asia.CCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03480692847642706079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-13703011880524010922009-05-05T14:17:00.000-05:002009-05-05T14:17:00.000-05:00It doesn't matter who we are individually, we all ...It doesn't matter who we are individually, we all have a skeleton in our closet that will be branded upon us whenever the time comes.<br />Tax Cheat, Racist, Anti-semite, you get the idea. We 3% are not lilly white.<br /><br />There is no way to wake the sheeple.<br /><br />This is why I pray for a viable secession movement in Montana/Alaska/Texas. Give me a place to move where I can live unmolested.<br /><br />I said a similar thing on Warriortalk, a gun board hosted by Gabe Suarez. I was told I wasn't "A red blooded American"<br /><br />I can think of no higher complement.<br /><br />The Founding Fathers made the decision that being a free man was more important than being an "Englishman".<br /><br />Until statists can make the same determination they will never understand.<br /><br />I value freedom over order. I am an American as long as the American system protects my rights, when it fails to do so I will be a follower of whatever country best does.CCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03480692847642706079noreply@blogger.com