tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post8319621355450329183..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: A Very Important Guest Article by Former ATF Agent Sandy DavisDutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-65400862204656115772016-07-08T11:28:56.897-05:002016-07-08T11:28:56.897-05:00Dear Lazy :) - The banking system is actually not ...Dear Lazy :) - The banking system is actually not run poorly at all. It's the biggest and most brilliant scam ever pulled on any nation going back to at least Rome. This system is working very well for the global bankers and their corporate bedfellows. As they manipulate our markets, creating more and bigger bubbles, they are becoming more rich and more powerful. This, while we become even more entrenched in debt. I believe they are the main reason all these LE agencies and PDs are getting tanks. Did you notice where all the tanks were when the bankers closed the banks in Greece? Yep, standing in between the people of Greece who had their money stolen and the banks that stole that money. In this country of course those tanks might be used to impose martial law any day now. <br /><br />Fred - If you meant me when you said to 'stop and get in the fight', I joined the fight decades ago. I have put my energy and money into waking others up to the horrors of tyranny that come from a big centralized gov’t, and I never miss an opportunity to do it. Like you, I firmly believe that the best way to win our constitutional republic back is to educate as many as we can whenever we can. I am still despised by many in LE who see me as a traitor, and my friends and family sometimes run when they see me coming. I figure that I must be doing something right. :) Also, maybe I didn't make it clear, but I haven’t been an agent for 20 years. As a disclaimer, I left, not b/c I was being noble. I left b/c ATF had just about destroyed me and I had kids to raise. Regardless, I know that God puts me exactly where I need to be when I need to be there. As far as being a smooth writer, thank you, but I’m actually not. I have just told this story to so many people, for so long, that I can tell it in my sleep. It’s been polished smooth over decades. And yep, I have seen many of my female friends (especially moms) wake up. In turn, most have been tenacious in waking up others. I think you’re spot on that there’s nothing like a mom seeing a potential threat to her kids to slap the apathy and denial right out of her. Lastly, it doesn’t matter that you don’t trust me. You are having the debate with me and people are reading these kinds of debates. I think it’s where we have to start. Thanks for your time and efforts! Sandy Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06932791575956062912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-55198480002086258322016-07-07T23:10:19.820-05:002016-07-07T23:10:19.820-05:00Ms. Davis, I wanted to add something. I've rea...Ms. Davis, I wanted to add something. I've read your replies here. You are a very smooth writer, calming even and much of your arguments seek feeling from yourself and the reader. Idea, work to convert women. Middle class women with children. Tell them that their children are in danger from tyranny. Explain the threat in terms only a mother can explain to a mother. Empathy and nurture are not strong traits among the warrior males. You would do well at winning hearts to liberty among professional women and mothers. I don't trust you, too smooth. Get to work, time is short, prove it.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-11885462225341701242016-07-07T22:44:04.908-05:002016-07-07T22:44:04.908-05:00The responses here are the exact reason why I have...The responses here are the exact reason why I have never stated where I worked and what I have done to earn my shame. I am awake, the LORD has led me to His Natural Law and that is enough. Thank you for sharing a part of your story. Stop now. Get in the fight. God bless you.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-80845037050341541292016-07-07T19:59:16.551-05:002016-07-07T19:59:16.551-05:00Henry, i think you made the best point yet out of ...Henry, i think you made the best point yet out of this discussion.<br />Chiu, i wish people shared your tolerance for the corruption. We would NOT be where we are if people held as firmly and absolutely to INTOLERANCE for the blatant criminality and corruption, but most folks cannot form that kind of solid personal resolve and that is why corruption and acceptance of it is so tolerated. It reflects badly of the moral status of most citizens, and weakness of character.<br /><br />Sign me, Neal JensenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-80919229814329666742016-07-07T18:16:14.934-05:002016-07-07T18:16:14.934-05:00Sandy, you clearly do want to hurt my feelings, or...Sandy, you clearly <i>do</i> want to hurt my feelings, or even provide that I suffer more tangible injury to my actual freedom.<br /><br />That said, I don't run when I can walk, and I don't walk when I can...well, perhaps I shan't allow that information to be elicited just now. Nor am I "loose" in many senses of the word other than being free to do as my conscience dictates...far more so than most, it seems.<br /><br />But if your friends in government want to try and change that, they are free to try...again. You can sign your name to their intention to destroy me, if you like. Or rather, you already have.<br /><br />See, elicitation <i>does</i> work both ways.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-73238635482054047022016-07-07T10:48:48.964-05:002016-07-07T10:48:48.964-05:00I wasn't trying to challenge your views....I s...I wasn't trying to challenge your views....I simply don't buy into some of the conspiracy theories expressed here or around the web. As one example: I don't think 911 was an "inside job"....it just illustrated how inept our government is at protecting us. I think the USG likely knew *something* was about to happen, but weren't really sure what exactly. I can't explain building 7....unless it contained sensitive information and was destroyed to cover up that trail. Same with the "Illuminati Rothchild Zionists"....ya, I think there are people that hold those delusions of grandeur and plot for world domination....I agree that the banking system is effectively running entire nations to the people's detriment....but I honestly cannot determine the degree to which they influence things. <br /><br />That ought to piss off the true believers, LOL. <br /><br />-Lazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-58694456244276119482016-07-07T09:44:54.513-05:002016-07-07T09:44:54.513-05:00“Lazy Anon” - Thanks for the well wishes. I actual...“Lazy Anon” - Thanks for the well wishes. I actually agree with you that most should not get out of jail, but that once time is served, they should have the opportunity to have their rights restored. As far as my ‘way out there thoughts’, I like to be challenged on my views. I find that has helped me evolve as much as anything. So if you feel inclined, challenge away. I’ll be more than happy to explain my position or maybe change it. <br /><br />Anon 5:23 - I knew this was a tough crowd when I agreed to write an article. I’ve followed Sipsey since Kay recommended it to me right after F&F. To me that makes it a great place to make the ‘us vs. them’ argument. And seriously, there is nothing to forgive. I understand the anger….I’ve lived with the monster. It almost destroyed me, and I watched while it destroyed many people that I loved very much. Those who weren’t completely devastated, were all left very scarred. Like you, I don’t want our kids to live under, what is by anyone’s definition, tyranny. <br /><br />Chiu - Well, I can promise you that I certainly didn’t mean to elicit that. And I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but are you running around loose? Sandy Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06932791575956062912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-81177201470417040312016-07-07T05:28:29.934-05:002016-07-07T05:28:29.934-05:00So then, to recap, people in ATF who see the corru...So then, to recap, people in ATF who see the corruption and fight it get fired, making them no longer ATF. That leaves ATF consisting of those who see the corruption and don’t fight it, those too brain-dead to see the corruption, and those that are the corruption. So it seems to me that “us vs. them” remains entirely appropriate attitude.Henrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-63979702251531620882016-07-06T19:42:53.973-05:002016-07-06T19:42:53.973-05:00"What have I ever done for the cause?"
..."What have I ever done for the cause?"<br /><br />I'm going to go ahead and answer the "elicitation" thus phrased.<br /><br />I've committed to use weapons of mass destruction as necessary to destroy the illegitimate criminal conspiracy which has suppressed the Constitutional government of the United States of America. I will kill millions or indeed billions if it proves impossible to break the conspiracy by any other means.<br /><br />That means I'm not just talking about killing everyone who is "in the government", I'm ready for killing pretty indiscriminately until the current tyranny is entirely destroyed.<br /><br />No, that's not my preference, and I will forgo saying anything more about particular methods than I have already (though biological weapons are <i>not</i> the primary focus of my actual work, which is why I feel free to discuss them openly). I began this in the hope that indiscriminate killing wouldn't be necessary (I actually began it when I hoped for civil resolution), and while I no longer have any hope of avoiding a lot of bloodshed, I'm still rooting for less rather than more. But I am prepared to accept the worse case outcome required to destroy tyranny.<br /><br />I'm aware that stating this openly and honestly is more likely to make the vast majority of people, whether or not they are "in the government", throw in their lot with the criminals rather than appear to condone my actions.<br /><br />And I'm prepared to kill them all.<br /><br />Because I <i>will not</i> permit this tyranny to continue, even if I have to wipe out the entire human race to destroy it. I still hope to at least avoid that extremity, but if not, if it becomes plain that extermination is required, then I <i>will</i> assent.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-50451967771520522552016-07-06T17:23:49.180-05:002016-07-06T17:23:49.180-05:00Sandy, this is a tough crowd. They are tough becau...Sandy, this is a tough crowd. They are tough because of what has been done to them and others and at no time has there ever been a hint of justice for the victims of this agency and some others as well. What they are asking themselves is why didn't you leave, why didn't you do more because they certainly would have, only they weren't there and they didn't have to deal with the shity dynamics that you and others did. As someone said, we all experience our awakening at different times and in different circumstances. I had my own to deal with and know the situation quite well. It is a very horrible experience to realize one day that your masters are evil and to serve them, you serve evil which is not abstract but real and who's victims have faces.<br /><br />I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive the anger and perhaps hatred of some but your voice must be heard regardless. Very often we find that those who were there and witnessed are the ones handing the rope to the hangman. For my part I accept that none of us are pure, including me. What I want is for our children and grand babies to live free of this and these evil people. There is no longer any doubt how this will end but end it must.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-57500460204001042112016-07-06T16:57:00.067-05:002016-07-06T16:57:00.067-05:00Sandy,
Lazy anon here again, LOL.
From the beg...Sandy,<br /><br />Lazy anon here again, LOL. <br /><br />From the beginning, I've agreed with your argument....the Federal government is corrupt and out of control. <br /><br />We disagree that "violent felons" shouldn't have their natural, negative right of self defense restored, *should they be released from prison*....but I'd wager we agree that they shouldn't be released in the first place, if they can't be trusted with a firearm. <br /><br />It takes a big person to admit their ignorance...though some of the theories out there are too far out for even my tastes....but I see where you're coming from. <br /><br />All the best in your endeavors....we all have a lot of work to do to restore the Republic and I welcome your help and input. <br /><br />Take care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-74310920772167630662016-07-06T14:04:56.885-05:002016-07-06T14:04:56.885-05:00Mr. Jensen,
You're obviously not understandin...Mr. Jensen,<br /><br />You're obviously not understanding what I'm saying. Is everyone who works for the federal government by default assisting them in their actions? Yes. My entire point is the same as Sandy's, while they all may be complicit it is usually out of stupidity, naivete or poor education.<br /><br />Writing them all off as "collaborators" is nothing but sheer laziness and bad strategy at that. I never claimed you could fix this government from inside, that is truly quite impossible. Any outreach to the people stuck inside the beast would be to bring them over to our side on a personal level. The truth is a large majority of the American public (including most government employees) just don't know or care, they go through life blissfully ignorant of the truth. Ignoring the sheep does not make them go away, it just makes it more likely that they will eventually choose to actively support the enemy.<br /><br />Matt Wilbanks<br />Oregon III%mjw-1982https://www.blogger.com/profile/17266030258123568353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-77453411783187405502016-07-06T13:09:57.822-05:002016-07-06T13:09:57.822-05:00This thread on the Comey announcement is a must re...This thread on the Comey announcement is a must read:<br />https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/79480356Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-41839084487601268212016-07-06T12:56:17.504-05:002016-07-06T12:56:17.504-05:00Anon 12:10 - The Terry family - Thanks for bringin...Anon 12:10 - The Terry family - Thanks for bringing them up! I think they are a very important part of this debate. Ask any of them how they feel about the whistleblowers and other agents who helped them. I promise you, at the very least, they will tell you that they are grateful. The Terry family saw up close the price these agents paid for standing up. Had it not been for these 'evil insiders', the Terry family would have never known anything other than Brian was shot by drug dealers. I think you just made my argument. <br /><br />Anon 10:20 - I am 'verified' if nothing else. But please understand, I am not trying to infiltrate Sipsey or any other group. Matt asked me if I would write my story for Sipsey and I was happy to do it. Nor am I'm asking anyone to trust me. You don't need to trust me in order to consider my argument.<br /><br />Also, I need to clarify something. I would like to see all gun laws that are unconstitutional repealed. Most of us can probably agree that violent felons should lose their right to own guns. And by violent...I am not talking about someone convicted solely of a drug crime. I think the so-called war on drugs is unconstitutional from top to bottom. I think the DEA should be abolished along with ATF. It's not the govt's job to save us from ourselves. <br /><br />I truly wasn't attempting to elicit information, I was actually just trying to make a point. But thank you Longbow for your story and your efforts. I had to chuckle when you said you started to wake up in 1992. That was the year my older brother found God. Yep, for the very same reason you started to wake up....Clinton in the white house. Unlike many of us, he knew his history at a very early age. He also understood the evils of our central banksters and their gov't puppets in D.C. Unlike me, he had actually read and studied the constitution. I used to roll my eyes at some of the "crazy" things he used to say. I get it now. He wasn't crazy. I was ignorant. <br /><br />Sandy Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06932791575956062912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-25940369307679865702016-07-06T10:20:08.741-05:002016-07-06T10:20:08.741-05:00I'm the anon poster who is too lazy to apply f...I'm the anon poster who is too lazy to apply for a blog account....I used to sign my name to posts until there was confusion b/c someone else had the same name and was already registered...eh...whatever. <br /><br />I'm also the poster who asked Sandy what she believes now....about repeal of all gun control laws. <br /><br />I accept that answer. However, bells and whistles start to go off when she starts to "ELICIT" information from us about "what we've done"....read the article up in the feed: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/07/whiterose-sends-elicitation-is-it.html<br /><br />I don't necessarily suspect Sandy of being a double agent....but I am not prepared to rule it out...."trust but verify" seems to again apply as others have noted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-76456956180685380242016-07-06T07:40:37.179-05:002016-07-06T07:40:37.179-05:00What is the maximum effective range of "good ...What is the maximum effective range of "good intentions" when you are employed by agencies that care not a whit about The Constitution, your rights or the LAW?<br /><br />My person is ruined anyway because I continue (until those bastards decide to fire me) draw a federal civil service paycheck. I AM INSIDE and you have no idea that your rights, your laws and Constitution mean NOTHING to the people who draw paychecks and benefits from the TAX DOLLARS of citizens, through the FEDGOV jobs. that said, it is GROSSLY MISREPRESENTED the LOYALTIES of those FED GOV employees, as they will DO NOTHING TO RISK THE CONTINUED FLOW of those paycheck and benefits because their is NO SANCTION OR PUNISHMENT FOR THEM TO UPHOLD THEIR OATH OF OFFICE (yes, civil service is REQUIRED to swear an OATH to DEFEND AND UPHOLD the Constitution, but they DO NOT).<br />'<br />So to my detractors (Mr Willbank's with your blanket bullshit that NOT ALL those who work for US FEDGOV are "bad"), well you are wrong. They still work for the FED GOV, their efforts STILL abridge the US Constitution, they still support the entire corrupt infrastructure that's in place, ignorance of its actions be damned, lack of awareness (not being "awake") is no excuse either.<br /><br />So from within the "enemies camp", I am telling you, and have loudly vocalized FREQUENTLY, you cannot negotiate with, bargain with, justify working for the ENEMY of FREEDOM without condoning it and supporting it and TAKING PAY AND BENEFITS from it, and then claim good intentions and ignorant bliss to your employers actions.<br /><br />None are innocent, on its payroll, NO not even me, but it does my conscience good to know that even as I live within the enemies camp, I do all I can to give it the worst sort of heartburn as long as I live. My military service was begun out of fear of a draft in 91, and predicated on the well repeated lies of patriotic honor duty and country. In short is was a long service based on a lie for the corrupt governments aims. I have much to atone for in that respect, but clearing my name as being one of these foul traitors company, is my final aim. There is no INNOCENTS on the FED GOV payroll. That being said, NO employee can safely draw a paycheck WITHOUT TACITLY accepting and supporting the rest of the corrupt organization necessary evil, save to say that they should outrightly RENOUNCE that same corruption and QUIT, fully sever ties with it.<br /><br />Sign Me, Neal Jensen (not afraid at all to PUT MY NAME on all my comments.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-19784533633499302862016-07-06T06:27:29.810-05:002016-07-06T06:27:29.810-05:00"Supporting the men and women that stand with..."Supporting the men and women that stand with their oaths and behind enemy lines in the Socialist controlled enclaves is more important than ever."<br /><br />I get what you're trying to do here, I do. I STILL maintain there are good cops out there, but they are fewer in number each day. <br /><br />The problem is that we are in Northern Ireland at this point. You will soon be able to tell the bad guys because they will be the ones shooting at you. But at this moment in time, trusting anyone still in the apparatus is like heading in to the local PSNI to speak with someone from MI5. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-33211148820805418712016-07-06T00:10:16.660-05:002016-07-06T00:10:16.660-05:00Yeah, lets get into bed with government. That will...Yeah, lets get into bed with government. That will fix it right up, uh huh, riiiight. <br /> <br />Don't you all see? That is part of the controllers game - to make you THINK you have a chance if you just infiltrate them enough with "good guys" then you can change it all from within. Parties do that, and government (AKA the exeutive branch cabinet) is just the same. <br /> <br />It is lucy placing the football.....maybe you will kick it THIS time. <br /> <br />Us versus them is the only thing that hasn't been tried, truly tried, well umm since the revolutionary war itself anyway. <br /> <br />Delegitmizing the entire thing and everyone in it, because they are there taking part in the corruption, watching it and "feeling helpless to stop it" is guilty. Good guys quit and stand against the tyranny itself, rather than doing its bidding "for a pension". <br /> <br />Truth hurts sometimes and this is one of those times. <br />I submit to you that the Terry family weren't about to let it all just be a movie....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-43246655882130799122016-07-06T00:04:52.248-05:002016-07-06T00:04:52.248-05:00This site contains a lot of energy and intelligenc...This site contains a lot of energy and intelligence. What great stuff above. <br /><br /> Thank you Sandy for fighting some serious fights. I have no cred yet. California's new laws (and NY and CT and maybe more exec orders and in treaties soon to be) give all of us more chances to stand the heck up, spread the word outside our little echo chambers and lead by example (DO NOT COMPLY). <br /><br /> Ridiculing each other here and on other websites is a waste of energy and time. I hereby declare all purists to have "won" their individual flame wars. You are free now to actually do something in the physical world.free for nowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632820566793071298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-850176979302096972016-07-05T23:25:15.902-05:002016-07-05T23:25:15.902-05:00Sandy,
I appreciate your candor.
" ...we ne...Sandy,<br /><br />I appreciate your candor.<br /><br />" ...we never should have allowed it to EXIST in the first place. Of course that would include NFA, FFA, GCA and all the rest."<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />" I understand, probably better than you do, that MANY who take that oath have not read it, or do not understand it, or don't believe in it. "<br /><br />I understand very well. I appreciate you saying so.<br /><br />" Kay spent 12 years as an agent. Once she became enlightened, she spent the next 30 years fighting ATF corruption as an attorney. She was no longer employed by ATF. She walked the walk EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.... for 3 decades. "<br /><br />Thank you for making that clear. It was not before.<br /><br />" ...what woke you up, how old were you, and what have you done since that time to truly make a difference?"<br /><br />What woke me ups the 1992 Election. I was at that time 28 years old. I saw a fraud had been perpetrated on the American People for the purpose of getting Clinton elected. That was the last general election in which I voted. I stopped supporting the Republican Party in 1994 after they caved on the Brady Law and the AWB. In 1993 I watched Waco happen and bald faced lies being told from every media outlet with the talking heads parroting "mass suicide". That event caused me to begin dig deep, digging into Ruby Ridge also. I studied both events and others, including OKC to exhaustion. In 1997-98 I was one of the major national distributors, as it was released on video tape, of the movie, "Waco: The Rules Of Engagement". I got to know Michael McNulty and Dan and Amy Gifford. McNulty once sent me video tape of Delta personnel and Hostage Roasting Team members stomping on the ashes of the Davidian Compound and asked to to see if I could identify any of them. Why would he do that? Because I had been a Soldier. I spent a total of fourteen years on active duty. I served first as an Army Ranger and later as a Special Forces Soldier. I knew people and they knew people. I gave McNulty's raw video to a close friend who was able to verify that Gen. Boykin had sent his boys from B Squadron to assist the FBI in committing mass murder. He was able to put names to the faces. At that particular moment I was out of the service. I have distributed videos, worked gun shows and the old Preparedness Expos all over the country trying to wake people up. I have been a professional gun dealer, during two different periods, operating a retail shop for several years in a good sized metropolitan area. In doing all of the above, I made myself a target and received some politically motivated Federal attention for it. I have done Special Operations. I have trained troops all over the world. I have been a Drill Sergeant. I have been a Combat Diver. I worked for two years in Iraq as a contractor, providing security for American Interests. That is some of what I have done. Did I make a difference? It seems not. Who knows? If I woke up one or two people, maybe it was worth it.<br /><br />What do I do now? I write a blog and run my mouth about subjects which, everyone may presume, I know nothing.<br /><br />Again, thank you for your candor.<br />Longbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977251310265101498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-24020237783155230342016-07-05T23:16:42.442-05:002016-07-05T23:16:42.442-05:00I had already answered many of these questions wit...I had already answered many of these questions with my last post so I won't repeat here...see above. I also ask all of you the questions at the bottom of that post....What woke you and made you realize the importance of the constitution, how old were you, and what have you done to make a difference since that time? <br /><br />I did not start out as a whistleblower. I fought ATF b/c they came after me and I was pissed. It was only after going to war with them, and watching them destroy the true whistleblowers who stood up for me (folks with everything to lose and nothing to gain), that I understood that I had a responsibility to honor them by coming to the aid of others when I could. I also take every opportunity to educate others on the evils of big gov't. My ATF nightmare happens to be a great example and I use it often. <br /><br />'Mike earned forgiveness'....I'm not sure what he needed to be forgiven for. He was wrong in his mindset and actions. When he knew better, he did better. Seriously, what else can anyone do? I do understand though that it is harder to forgive oneself. I still deal with much guilt over those who were so harmed simply because they helped me by telling the truth. <br /><br />Linker and anonymous - I have been around singing this same tune, using my real name since I was in my 20's. I'm now in my 50s. Matt didn't post this without vetting me out, which is very easy to do. I have almost 30 years, 7 'Davis vs. ATF/IRS/Dept of Labor' wins, and numerous people who have watched me evolve and mature over that time. I have had the absolute shit knocked out me through the years, and whenever I pop back up, singing my song, I get hit again. I have no doubt my name is going on another gov't list as we speak. But I have kids I worry will have to live under even worse tyranny than what we have now, so I keep trying.<br /><br />To you 'purists' posting anonymously......I think I have fully addressed who I am and what my motivation is. My question to you is...Who in the hell are you and what have you done for the cause lately? For that matter, what have you ever done for the cause?<br /><br />Again Matt W. - Amen!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sandy Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06932791575956062912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-48865806120437318922016-07-05T22:29:07.097-05:002016-07-05T22:29:07.097-05:00"The (Um)repentant Linker,
I made a few inqu..."The (Um)repentant Linker,<br /><br />I made a few inquires from some of the industry experts I inherited from the Old Man prior to printing it. She is 100% legit. I stand by this post."<br /><br />Fair enough. You guys have more inside info than the rest of us probably have. If you guys trust her story then I guess I'll trust her story, at least as far as I trust you guys. ;-)<br /><br />Heck, I don't even trust myself most days.<br /><br />A high school acquaintance had, as a hobby and part time job, the collection of rattlesnakes for Bill Haast's "Serpentarium". He kept a few of them in tanks in his bedroom as pets. We all thought he was nuts. But he insisted, as long as he remembered that they were rattlesnakes, and treated them like rattlesnakes he was OK. The trouble would begin if he ever started treating them like bunnies or hamsters.<br /><br />You guys have made the acquaintance of several current and former BATFE personnel. Just keep in mind that none of them are bunnies.<br /><br />The (Um)repentant LinkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-78695085506689175592016-07-05T22:08:16.033-05:002016-07-05T22:08:16.033-05:00
The (Um)repentant Linker,
I made a few inquires ...<br />The (Um)repentant Linker,<br /><br />I made a few inquires from some of the industry experts I inherited from the Old Man prior to printing it. She is 100% legit. I stand by this post.Dutchman6https://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-18654425896079898732016-07-05T20:35:51.530-05:002016-07-05T20:35:51.530-05:00"Do you want to impose such a rigid purity te..."Do you want to impose such a rigid purity test that it cannot allow for people having epiphanies or being horrified once getting a glimpse of things on the inside?"<br /><br />Having read Ms Davis's story, and the posted reactions to it, I can only say that I agree with MissAnthropy's conclusion. Ideological purity is a luxury that cannot and should not necessarily survive when the balloon goes up. Certain thoughts come to mind. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend,' is apropos. So is 'Let him without sin among you cast the first stone.' 'Trust, but verify' might fit also. Resistance movements have always taken their allies wherever they found them. I see no reason it should be any different in the current context. And I'm not talking about accepting anyone at face value, but neither should they be shot out of hand for want of ideological "purity", whatever that means when the SHTF. Just sayin'.<br /> the Plinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-86225253539940709522016-07-05T16:54:11.148-05:002016-07-05T16:54:11.148-05:00It's been said that you can fix up a house, bu...It's been said that you can fix up a house, but you can't fix up a neighborhood. That's because derelict houses attract derelict people and convince other house owners to neglect their properties once some critical mass is reached. One crooked cop on the beat is not so hard to correct. But what if the crooked cop is in Internal Affairs? What if it's not just one cop, but many? What if the whole Internal Affairs department is crooked? What if the command structure is crooked from top to bottom as Ms. Davis and others have rightly pointed out is true at BATFE? IMHO, BATFE has lost their honor, if in truth they ever had any. Many years ago, if a legion had been judged to have lost their honor the consequences were swift and terrible. The only way for a legion to regain their lost honor was through the process of "decimation". I will leave that up to you to research and, no, it doesn't mean what you think it means. What would the BATFE do to regain their lost honor? Do the leadership even know the concept of honor or place any value on it?<br /><br />To Mike and Matt:<br /><br />In this very blog you introduced us to a few cardinal rules of intelligence gathering. You start by asking yourself, "Who is this person? Why are they telling me this? Why are they telling me this at this time?" Then you go on to ask yourself, "If .GOV was trying to plant a significant mole in our midst, how would they do it any differently?" Have you two applied any of these principles to Ms. Davis' story?<br /><br />To Ms. Davis:<br /><br />Mike was once a radical leftist as was I. Mike has since become a staunch defender of American liberty and earned the forgiveness of many. More importantly perhaps, Mike has come to the point where he has forgiven himself. I'm not quite there yet and envy his inner peace. So I ask you, Ms. Davis. What will you do to atone for the sins you have undoubtedly committed in the service of BATFE against the Constitutional Rights of the American People? I think from the tone of many of the comments here, you can see that becoming a "whistleblower" in and of itself is not quite going to cut it. You regret how you were treated by BATFE, but I, for one, do not sense you have had your "road to Damascus" moment.<br /><br />So I challenge you to answer in your own heart of hearts: Do you believe the State exists to serve the People? Or do you believe the People exist to serve the State? Moreover, to quote Dutchman6, "Choose this day whom you will serve!"<br /><br />The (Um)repentant Linker Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com