tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post7941116609514131531..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: The Feds accommodate Ammon Bundy and give him his John-Brown-at-Harper's-Ferry moment, and we get to make a choice.Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-47506717257120842672016-01-30T13:39:32.358-06:002016-01-30T13:39:32.358-06:00Every American has an absolute Constitutionally pr...Every American has an absolute Constitutionally protected right to peaceful protest of injustices perpetrated by the government in all areas which are administered by that government and open to the public, like that wildlife refuge center.<br /><br />It isn't their own property in the same way as their own property (for instance, on their own property they would have the right to forcibly eject counter-protesters or hostile media). But for purposes of exercising their own First Amendment rights it is very nearly theirs, and certainly the rights are theirs.<br /><br />To deny those rights by violence is every bit as bad as to seize their personal property...worse by some lights.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-51678950549951497712016-01-29T09:06:35.981-06:002016-01-29T09:06:35.981-06:00No More Free Wacos wasn't simply about siege m...No More Free Wacos wasn't simply about siege mentality. It was the government doesn't get free reign to off citizens in these type of events without due process. <br /><br />Is it your argument that the BLM is legitimate in its authority in spite of what the constitution says on the matter? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-43600666631174728262016-01-29T00:58:05.010-06:002016-01-29T00:58:05.010-06:00"The point is: No More Free Wacos is proving ..."The point is: No More Free Wacos is proving to be HOT AIR"<br /><br />no, it's not. WACO was a siege not of their own making. you can't "make your own" by seizing something, and daring people to come and get you. the 2 are not the same.Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18113393195056382332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-30175861771165178312016-01-28T09:57:27.574-06:002016-01-28T09:57:27.574-06:00Is anyone arguing that BLM *ISN'T* exercising ...Is anyone arguing that BLM *ISN'T* exercising authority it does not actually hold under the constitution? <br /><br />If you admit that fact, then as poorly planned as this "protest" was....the underlying complaint was legitimate. <br /><br />And a man was shot and killed over it. Let that sink in a minute. <br /><br />No one has said he drew a weapon....one allegation is that he "charged" at the police. <br /><br />Anyone see the docu-drama, John Adams? The Boston "Massacre" was adjudicated self-defense and rightly so, since a mob armed with clubs and rocks was assaulting the Red Coats when the shooting started. That event still helped spark a revolution, albeit years later.<br /><br />The point is: No More Free Wacos is proving to be HOT AIR. This post isn't a call to arms, it's a call to reality. I still have too much to lose to do what needs to be done....unless it directly affects me or mine. And I'll wager most are sitting behind the computer thinking the same thing (as evidenced by a lack of assassinated government officials hitting the newsfeed). Let's at least be honest with ourselves about what this all means. No one thinks it's time yet. That doesn't mean we don't have a 5 year wait ahead before the balloon goes up. Prepare and train.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-18500409918157703462016-01-28T09:40:23.251-06:002016-01-28T09:40:23.251-06:00Food for thought: at a minimum, this raises the pr...Food for thought: at a minimum, this raises the price of poker by increasing tensions in the freedom community. I have long thought that Obama has a nasty parting gift for the country in this Presidential election year (2008 surprises worked so well for him, why not run the same play for another purpose?) and having the 3% on edge and ready to defend, perversely, could give him another arrow in his quiver. Think of some recent, high-social-stress incidents/responses that were all deliberately stoked by external actors but petered out after a while like, Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Mater, Trayvon Martin, etc. Individually, neither amounts to much but if viewed as small dry runs in order to mobilize and build a motivated force to cause a lot of damage and havoc at the right time, it looks powerfully destructive. All war is economic. Get us on edge and it won't take much for Obama to light us off so he could have an even greater crisis that he most assuredly will not let go to waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-88306780895348498142016-01-28T01:20:52.656-06:002016-01-28T01:20:52.656-06:00The Feds have turned a protest into a military con...The Feds have turned a protest into a military conflict.<br /><br />It was poor planning on the part of the protesters to not seriously prepare for what they all had to know was going to happen eventually.<br /><br />But the fact remains, the Feds have unambiguously turned this into a military conflict. We can choose our tactics going forward, but we cannot go back and choose to turn military conflict into protest.<br /><br />We kill them until they have no more power to inflict tyranny on us.<br /><br />Then we try the survivors for war crimes and hang them.<br /><br />The exact methods will differ according to particular circumstances. I've so far been disappointed by the lack of enemies willing to come to me, so I'm evaluating options to go to them. But there is no more talking to them.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-52644761565541135412016-01-28T00:47:37.615-06:002016-01-28T00:47:37.615-06:00
We can only hope that the demand for answers and ...<br />We can only hope that the demand for answers and accountability goes viral.<br /><br />http://stopshouting.blogspot.com/2016/01/an-open-letter-to-special-agent-greg.htmlTest Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324365990733271788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-72341560632312803132016-01-27T20:25:58.668-06:002016-01-27T20:25:58.668-06:00The person killed was another rancher I guess ......The person killed was another rancher I guess ...LaVoy Finicum (tarp man). He had declared himself a "Free Man" and asserted that he would not surrender to be arrested. I am going to hold my thoughts on what I assume happened. According to an article below they were on their way to another county to establish a "Shadow Government". <br /><br />http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/eyewitnesses-knock-down-conspiracy-theories-about-lavoy-finicum-dying-with-his-hands-up/Dakotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261415021692766579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-76677672397684484232016-01-27T19:24:58.355-06:002016-01-27T19:24:58.355-06:00I am actually quite proud of the greater citizen m...I am actually quite proud of the greater citizen militia for not going off the rails and getting the rest of us into a fight on questionable grounds. If we have to fight, we do so on our terms in a manner that is clearly recognizable by all as THE line in the sand. It cannot be ambiguous or built on otherwise questionable precepts or personalities.<br /><br />Molon Labe, motherfuc*$@# feds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-76569802378421546732016-01-27T16:26:23.519-06:002016-01-27T16:26:23.519-06:00Awful lot of pissed off Americans today. It does a...Awful lot of pissed off Americans today. It does appear, according to an eyewitness account, that an American citizen was Wacoed for the heinous crime of disagreeing with the politburo. <br /><br />Of course, if Mr. Finicum had been of a certain other ethnicity, I'm sure there would be some serious "civil disobedience" brewing tonight, and in the numerous nights ahead. But, if that were to occur under current circumstances, there probably won't be any "crossover of impunity" afforded to rightly angered Americans who might engage in a show of "public emotion".<br /><br />As for why the feds felt it necessary to go all Tactical Timmy at this time; perhaps it was from all the bitching done on the part of the demo-cretin governor and a local judge, who no doubt caught the sympathetic ear of a syphilitic hermaphrodite in the District of Criminals. <br /><br />The "Infamous They" have got to be thinking; if this doesn't garner a response... nothing will.<br /><br />MikeH.<br />A Geriatric Threeper On A High BoilMikeH.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11511925756474067012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-22973640243169422362016-01-27T15:38:07.623-06:002016-01-27T15:38:07.623-06:00Lavoy Finicum shot with hands in the air. Car ridd...<br />Lavoy Finicum shot with hands in the air. Car riddled with bullets, no shots fired by Occupier caravan.<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y92PvMFL0Eg<br /><br />This girl was in the vehicle. The LEOs fired indiscriminately into the vehicle. It is a miracle more weren't hit. <br /><br /><br />THINK about this........... When is enough, enough?????<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-77837317160443270132016-01-27T15:31:17.201-06:002016-01-27T15:31:17.201-06:00"This was totally unnecessary since the resol..."This was totally unnecessary since the resolve of the occupiers was weakening and they were in negotiations to achieve a peaceable exit. What the hurry was is mystifying to me since the Feds negotiated with the Montana Freemen for 81 days before coming to a peaceful resolution."<br /><br />Could it be that BECAUSE it was winding down, the scenario became "necessary?"The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-75447451544592026092016-01-27T14:06:15.041-06:002016-01-27T14:06:15.041-06:00The difference was that the Montana freeman had th...The difference was that the Montana freeman had the support of the local Sheriff who made sure the FBI behaved. The character of local lawmen makes all the difference.indyjonesoutherenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-61952667277642555702016-01-27T13:41:41.063-06:002016-01-27T13:41:41.063-06:00So much for all that Oafkeeper nonsense.So much for all that Oafkeeper nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-58236588270135524962016-01-27T13:16:44.321-06:002016-01-27T13:16:44.321-06:00Choice made.Choice made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-45236914967742981902016-01-27T13:10:35.957-06:002016-01-27T13:10:35.957-06:00The really strange thing here is the charge that t...The really strange thing here is the charge that they used. It is an old Law from the 1800's involving the KKK. The Act that codified it was the KKK act.<br />The purpose of this section was to prevent people who were enforcing court orders from being beat up or killed.<br />Yet here we are years later and what seems to be a civil rights (Life, Liberty and property) complaint that should have been settled in court, being enforced using a law that was meant to protect people doing just what they are doing.<br />The only part of that act that could possibly be used is the taking of federal property by force. Yet, no force was ever used.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-17340157792433573832016-01-27T12:49:41.744-06:002016-01-27T12:49:41.744-06:00Here's the local coverage:
http://www.oregonl...Here's the local coverage:<br /><br />http://www.oregonlive.com/oreg...<br /><br />The comments are sickening. The Portlanders are out in force and howling with glee. So many people with closed minds who don't know the history of the area that are -- not upset, nor relieved, but sadomasochistically HAPPY that a man engaged in peaceful armed protest in the middle of nowhere got shot to death by his own government. Transexuals or illegal aliens or hood rats or misogynistic Muslims would -- and do -- get more sympathy.<br /><br />I was prepared for the hate and scorn and ridicule, but not the bloodthirsty joy. Broad swathes of our society are stoned on the same narcotic as the Germans were in the 1930's. they clamor for our deaths. The thought makes them giddy. The government can exercise an iron hand at every level and they will crow and applaud.<br /><br />I am sick and sad at heart today.Rivenshieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12838742377855184956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-10653474534624922462016-01-27T12:47:43.912-06:002016-01-27T12:47:43.912-06:00Also. The convoy was on its way to John dau, or. T...Also. The convoy was on its way to John dau, or. That's in Grant county and had a sympathetic sheriff. The FBI knows if they left Grant co sheriff wouldn't let the feds touch them. This WAS their one chance. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05336698676465308487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-20728483359127946552016-01-27T12:38:44.189-06:002016-01-27T12:38:44.189-06:00Pure propaganda. With a side of anti federal spin....Pure propaganda. With a side of anti federal spin. NOT the way to gain or maintain credibility.---RayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-62982864786696097732016-01-27T11:57:55.900-06:002016-01-27T11:57:55.900-06:00Hopefully the Oathkeepers standing as a "buff...Hopefully the Oathkeepers standing as a "buffer" will not turn tail and run as they did in NV.<br />This is fed payback for the Bundy ranch fiasco. I expect the feds to Waco the remaining protesters.<br />After that, it's our turn.Steady Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-82369979827906198242016-01-27T11:46:37.434-06:002016-01-27T11:46:37.434-06:00I don't know where the info came from, but one...I don't know where the info came from, but one person commented on the story at Wapo, said the Oregon State police was the party who shot Finicum. Another story claimed he "charged" the police, while another claimed "he was on the ground with his hands in the air". At this point...who knows. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-50492354034491214942016-01-27T11:19:43.391-06:002016-01-27T11:19:43.391-06:00Perhaps “eliminating” a dangerous leader was the i...Perhaps “eliminating” a dangerous leader was the important purpose. Whack one little monkey and the rest will behave.<br />Not so much the Waco solution as Ruby Ridge. Some men are just too dangerous to let them get in a courtroom.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11007383747176725344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-59237232438169680022016-01-27T11:04:25.746-06:002016-01-27T11:04:25.746-06:00Where's the dashcam footage.Where's the dashcam footage.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15532745033281768985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-89742066369062144532016-01-27T11:02:54.724-06:002016-01-27T11:02:54.724-06:00I demand to see the police dashcam footage. I demand to see the police dashcam footage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-20423044225108795232016-01-27T10:47:50.935-06:002016-01-27T10:47:50.935-06:00I wonder if Mr. Finicum had a policy with 100 Head...I wonder if Mr. Finicum had a policy with 100 Heads Life and Casualty Insurance Company? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com