tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post5494206228304584057..comments2024-02-28T20:56:23.768-06:00Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Praxis: New, improved 5.56 round. Or is it?Dutchman6http://www.blogger.com/profile/09935420042995679958noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-55400010393541314052010-07-05T17:16:13.078-05:002010-07-05T17:16:13.078-05:00The brits use several old lead mines for public wa...The brits use several old lead mines for public water supply. These are the ones I have personal knowledge of:<br /><br />Roughton Gill mine in the Caldbeck Fells, Cumbria.<br /><br />Presser shaft Jeffries Rake, in County Durham.<br /><br />Duke's Level, Grassington, North Yorkshire.<br /><br />Several of the old mines around Youlgrave in Bradford Dale, Derbyshire.<br /><br />Can't remember the name of the sough draining the Wirksworth area of Derbyshire to the River Derwent.<br /><br />The Milwr tunnel draining the Halkyn mining district in north wales is used for industrial water supply, although the loss of several tonnes of WW2 German chemical weapons into the local groundwater is a far bigger threat to safety than an entire lead mining district.<br /><br />Lead is not significantly mobile in any ground or surface water you'd be likely to drink (you need pretty outragous extremes of pH to get it mobile and the only example I know of for supergene enrichment of lead was under a tertiary age peat bog at Tynagh in County Galway, Ireland) <br /><br /><br />For adults, low level chronic poisoning is easily treated with no lasting damage.<br /><br />the scare over lead is just a modern day version of the scares over pollution of racial purity - something the progressives use to try frightening folk into giving them power.Geo Engnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-80929913568130013282010-07-04T21:09:31.322-05:002010-07-04T21:09:31.322-05:00Lead contaminating ground water from runoff is bul...Lead contaminating ground water from runoff is bull, according to a study that was reported a few years ago in the NRA's magazine. Researchers studied the Gettysburg battlefield. Lead Minnie balls sitting there for 150 years. NO ground contamination of lead was found. Apparently the surface oxidizes immediately, and becomes an essentially inert material to ground and water action. The eco-whacos ignore the study.<br />Lost my references due to a computer problem, sigh...Willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-69462153108130703622010-07-04T16:42:33.398-05:002010-07-04T16:42:33.398-05:00Lead is not mobile in ground or surface water.
Ch...Lead is not mobile in ground or surface water.<br /><br />Check with any exploration geochemist - they make money finding minerals, environmental plebs make theirs peddling scare stories.Jock McRocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-58829112217067511232010-07-04T14:21:34.845-05:002010-07-04T14:21:34.845-05:00“There is not a bullet in this world that will do ...<i>“There is not a bullet in this world that will do that,” said Dr. Martin Fackler, former director of the Wound Ballistics Laboratory at the Letterman Army Institute of Research who also served in the Vietnam War as a combat surgeon. “Even if you take the guy’s heart apart, he can still shoot back at you for 15 seconds because he’s still got enough oxygen in the blood in his brain to do it.”</i><br /><br />Not if you take apart his sternum and spine in the process.Paul W. Davisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-27250966266412459082010-07-03T22:29:39.337-05:002010-07-03T22:29:39.337-05:00The age old argument of 223 vs 308. I own both, I...The age old argument of 223 vs 308. I own both, I prefer the 308 most of the time and have waaaay more confidence in the 308.<br /><br />There was talk about the military changing calibers and the 6.8 and 6.5 Grendel was looked into. I believe the 6.5 was a way better choice due to it's much better long distance performance. <br /><br />Of course the military was leaning towards the 6.8 .... figures. The 308 is not really an intermediate cartridge and not very good for full auto fire unless used in a MG. It does the job very well however and I love it.<br /><br />Whatever we give our troops they must have the best we can make and the best "bang for the buck" to save their lives in the field.Dakotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261415021692766579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-73870282118815142292010-07-03T22:09:39.896-05:002010-07-03T22:09:39.896-05:00follow up - when I wrote '5.67' caliber it...follow up - when I wrote '5.67' caliber it was not a typo... that is the new, secret round designed by Obongo, Pelosi and Napolitano, to make our troops more beloved by the raghead tangoes. <br />Each round contains a small amount of Quik-Klot, to stop the bleeding after an 'adversarial combatant' has been hit, and a spot of Neosporin to prevent infection; <br /><br />also, the base of each bullet will be microstamped with the toll free international numbers for Amnesty International and the Berkley office of the ACLU, in case the injured parties wish to sue the US troops in the World Court.jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850395662800864408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-66872498626895065322010-07-03T21:12:20.006-05:002010-07-03T21:12:20.006-05:00It's interesting that there was no mention wha...It's interesting that there was no mention whatever of the Mk 262 cartridge, a super-heavy 5.56 designed to fragment reliably (as fragmentation rather than yaw and cavitation is the real man-stopper, as per Dr. Fackler's research). The problem with the 262 was that it was so thin-skinned that it sacrificed virtually all penetration, so your average mujahid hiding behind a boulder or vehicle had nothing to fear. <br /><br />I guess the 262 is no longer up for consideration. I've noticed that this is how the Army admits failure: total silence.<br /><br />7.62x39 is the real intermediate round. I hear there's still guys in Araby patrolling with captured AK's. 5.56 is for coyotes.Witchwoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-19767888141168460542010-07-03T18:38:33.510-05:002010-07-03T18:38:33.510-05:00Well, here we go with the same old shitstorm I was...Well, here we go with the same old shitstorm I was bitched at with last month.<br />For those out there that are mathematically challenged, .30 is bigger than .22 and 147 gr. is bigger than 62 gr. Trying to tell me this new Super .22 will outperform a 7.62mm NATO is both illogical and a lie. Tell someone a lie long enough and it becomes truth. We now have over 45 yrs of this lie perpetuating itself over and over until everyone believes it. Except for a fatal flaw. It is getting our troops killed. <br />These kids go off to war believing they are armed with the finest weapons money can buy and die, never understanding basic politics and gov't lying. I don't care how many ways you think you can polish a turd, it's still a turd. Period.<br />Short of loading Barnes Triple-shock bullets in the 5.56, I can't think of any way to make it kill better than a 7.62mm. How about penetration and long range wind resistance. I've never shot one single 5.56mm that wasn't knocked flat by wind or rain to the point of being useless.<br />Take a look at yesterdays ambush pics in Mexico and tell me which round you would rather use.<br />This entire program to make a silk purse out of a sows ear has been a 45 year blunder and a waste of both tax dollars and soldiers lives. <br />And if you just can't handle the recoil of an M-14, just think how much it must hurt when the other guys round hits you.<br />Semper Fi, 0321/2111Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-47940182156973720102010-07-03T17:41:11.994-05:002010-07-03T17:41:11.994-05:00Somehow I also doubt the Army really cares about t...Somehow I also doubt the Army really cares about the environment either. The E wackos haven't tumbled onto all the batterys yet and are more interested in restraining military lethality. Ammo is an upfront publically obvious usage of lead. Would you doubt the E wackos are in perfect sync and communication with the anti military crowd? There is also a civilian usage of ammo/lead issue that could be used to restrain firearm usage. A firearm is useless without ammo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-9099785395488286282010-07-03T17:33:42.153-05:002010-07-03T17:33:42.153-05:00Well, I can tell ya - when lead is zipping past yo...Well, I can tell ya - when lead is zipping past your head and kicking up dust behind you; when enemy mortar fire is trying to find your exact range and you are getting showered with rock, dirt and other crap; when the air is thick with smoke and you can smell a blend of powder, burning flesh and blood.... nothing gives you that warm, happy feeling down inside like knowing that your loads will be safe for dear mother earth!!<br /><br />The guy who says that there is no round on earth that can consistently stop a fellow with one shot, might enjoy being introduced to the 500 Nitro, or, for that matter, even the 50 BMG. I know, he meant in a lighter weight shoulder arm, but he should be more concise.<br /><br />Anyone who spouts off about what our men in the field need should be dropped into a hot zone, preferably at the start of a protracted firefight. He should be given an immediate choice of two weapons to pick up and defend his life with - a 5.67 or a 308 / 7.63.... then let his choice set the policy for everyone, rather than have him sit on his ass behind a desk and dictate what the warriors need. I guarantee you he will choose whatever weapon has the largest exit hole at the muzzle.<br /><br />BTW - MBV - are my emails reaching you at the new address??? Just wondering if any interference??jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850395662800864408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-35331913835948029222010-07-03T16:09:12.113-05:002010-07-03T16:09:12.113-05:00I think I'll stick with my 7.62, thak you very...I think I'll stick with my 7.62, thak you very much.<br /><br />BuckeyeNCOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-43482453378086937972010-07-03T15:12:13.341-05:002010-07-03T15:12:13.341-05:00The Army does NOT care about the environment, if i...The Army does NOT care about the environment, if it did they would begin by recycling batteries. The Army does NOT recycle batteries and they use millions of batteries.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14639420724554642205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-74133124510504505682010-07-03T14:51:59.716-05:002010-07-03T14:51:59.716-05:00So they're replacing tungsten (China is the la...So they're replacing tungsten (China is the largest producer) with bismuth?<br /> An online encyclopedia says the amount of bismuth found in the earth is only twice that of GOLD. It is produced as a byproduct of ... TUNGSTEN processing. The largest producer of bismuth is ... still China.<br /> The price of bismuth is rising rapidly BECAUSE it is popular as a lead substitute.<br /><br /> Maybe the military will go for solar-powered TANKS next.Defendernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-62391461892766986292010-07-03T14:11:56.513-05:002010-07-03T14:11:56.513-05:00“The idea of being able to carry 210 rounds [basic...“The idea of being able to carry 210 rounds [basic load] is quickly overshadowed by the fact that it takes more than one and even more than two rounds to drop the enemy,” Staff Sgt. Charles Kouri, 82nd Air- borne Division, told Army Times.<br /><br /><br />Not only would the 7.62 NATO be superior to what we now issue as an antipersonnel round, it also makes a better barrier/barricade penetrator. This is something to consider if by some remote chance you were ever to find the need to direct fire on a column of lightly-armored vehicles.<br /><br />MALTHUSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-31134690837878896182010-07-03T13:19:28.058-05:002010-07-03T13:19:28.058-05:00Just another step in the long march to ban lead. M...Just another step in the long march to ban lead. Might get them hurt. Banners, that is.<br /><br />On the other hand, it don't matter what they do with that poodle popper, it's still a POS.<br /><br />Mountain RiflemanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7575061201749703300.post-68413539253863556682010-07-03T12:37:18.146-05:002010-07-03T12:37:18.146-05:00How's that expensive high-tech new .223 round ...How's that expensive high-tech new .223 round performing when compared to the cheap old-tech .30 150gr. M-80 FMJ bullet that has no trouble smashing through standard car windshields? <br /><br />What if 7.62NATO ammo had a bunch of research money thrown at it for optimization? I suspect that one-shot hit/stops would become the new normal, as it is for skinny unarmored bad guys who are shot with a .45Colt or .44Mag pistol at close range. <br /><br />80-100 hard-hitting rounds per man is plenty when aimed fire techniques (c.1948) are used. Mass-fire gets our boys killed, does not contribute to "winning", and makes munitions makers rich. <br /><br />Reserve the poodle-shooters for small and light soldiers with insufficient strength to handle a full-size weapon (what are girls doing out here?). <br /><br />Cheers.pdxr13https://www.blogger.com/profile/04663894695994248670noreply@blogger.com