Monday, August 23, 2010

No, I'm not "better than that."

A comment to the comments below, highlighted just so none of you will miss it.

For all those who say I'm "better than this," you're wrong. I am demonstrating by my plain opinion exactly how MUCH better I am than Baugh and anybody else who wants to compromise their principles by sucking up to racial collectivists.

I'm not looking for disciples. You don't have to agree with me, and if you don't it doesn't mean I won't trust you to tie my flank to. It just means that I doubt your judgment on this issue.

Baugh, on the other hand, is a Nazi lick. He has demonstrated it plainly more than once now. Hell, as far as I know, the present public argument was his intention all along. Every time I've made plain my differences with him, he's sent me an email thanking me. So what he's really after is attention and selling books, not necessarily in that order.

If you don't like what I write, then don't read it.

But I am not going to change MY principles just because some folks feel needy for allies, ANY allies, even ones like Baugh & Co. who will later discredit you at the least and stab you in the back at the most.

And if you follow him down his merry path, that's what you'll get -- stabbed in the back.

Are we all clear on that?



Anonymous said...



Female III said...

Exactly. One of the best things about you, Mike is you are always on such firm ground that you can look a bad guy right in the face, just inches from his eye and slay him with just a few words. And you do.

DB said...

I agree. You should never compromise your principles.


Texas Shooter said...

"I'm not looking for disciples. You don't have to agree with me, and if you don't it doesn't mean I won't trust you to tie my flank to. It just means that I doubt your judgment on this issue."

Bullseye, Mike.

Reg Thibodeau said...

Well, Mike, you have proven yourself to be just as rabid as those you would condemn. It is possible to accept what is true from a man you don't like _without_ compromising your principles. But when you throw the baby out with the bathwater, you demonstrate a pettiness that is not becoming in someone who would lead us. I don't know how Pete at WRSA feels about it, but I'll bet his take on this is similar to mine. He understands Baugh has value that you would discard.

I'll still read Sipsey Street for the good things you post, but you have lost my respect, old buddy.

Dakota said...

I can see that we are going to have a hell of a time Mike. That's OK I figured as much anyway. Hopefully somewhere we can all find common ground and restore our country on Constitutional footings.

I must admit that that may not be possible however ... I think it is important to realize that fact. It remains my goal ... however it will be next to impossible. There are too many players ... they all have power and are well armed also. It may not be possible to engage them all to restore the rule of law that we now have. Time will tell I suppose, I only know that I refuse to die on my knees ....I want my children and grandchildren to have some semblance of the blessings that I have known and have allowed to slip away in the storm of confusion brought about by unscrupulous politicals and those that have other motives and appetites.

Toaster 802 said...

I will not abide Nazis. Neo or other. My nephew was brutally murders by two of them. While they where caught and will do life without parole, I will not forgive.

This does not mean my enemies cannot teach me something. If I wish to learn it.

Bob Wright said something truly profound...

...Mr. Baugh has certainly sent some of our campers screaming into the night, questioning their most deeply held beliefs, the motivations of their brethren, and the very foundation of our great republic. Shame on you.

We must use our minds and not our emotions. Emotional thinking is the realm of old women. This struggle must be populated with grown up men who are willing to set aside all their prejudices, personal grudges, personal satisfaction and personal aggrandizement in order to make decisions based on one criteria only. Each decision must be made on the tactical practicality of that decision as well as the strategic implications of that decision.

...More on next post

Toaster 802 said...


...As did JRR Tolkin.

"War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."-Book IV, Chapter 5

And best of all for this issue...

"'Come, come!' said Gandalf. 'We are all friends here. Or should be; for the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward, if we quarrel."-Book III, Chapter 6

Mr Baugh has some of it right, some of it wrong, and a misguided idea of who his, and our friends should be.

It is up to us what is wheat, what is chaff, and what we can take away from it all. And then get on with our work.

The Lord of the rings should be on any patriot reading list. Disparate and distrustful races realize at the eleventh hour that they need each other to not only survive, but win. If they cannot put aside their quarrels, they will be defeated in details.

While Mr. Baugh is willing to deal with the devil, that is his choice with all it's fruits. We the people just have to settle our quarrels, which in the end are not anywhere near selling out to evil.

Shake hands, ruck up, and move out. There is work to do.

Anonymous said...

Were with you Mike

Anonymous said...

If my Grandaddy was still alive he would just kick both of YOU (Mike and Pete) right in the ass and say... "boys, cut that shit out we got work to do!"

Anonymous said...

Right on Mike. As I told some people the other day:

"I know some pretty hardcore Patriots and we don't always see eye to eye. But the difference between them and I ... and I and you ... is them and I have a bridge ... I and you are oceans apart."

Devil Flea III

Dennis308 said...

Tempers are running a little hot but I´m going to sat it anyway this is what I commented over at WRSA. (just swapped names around)

I hope ALL parties in this discourse can find a way to put this behind them. There is too much at stake to allow a few differences of opinion on the thought and beliefs of one individual. Tom Baugh has some good points, so do You Dutchman, as does C.A. I am a novice in this Attempted Restoration and Even I can see that this is doing our cause no good. We can not resist our oppressors if we do not unite and stay united. What where the words of Ben Franklin
We should hang together, Or We Shall Surely Hang Separately. And was´t there a Sons of Liberty Flag of a dismembered Rattler that had the Words ¨Unite or Die¨. May be it´s not my place to tell the both of You, Since you guys both have WAY MORE experience at this than I do If So I´ll get my nose out of your buisness but this is my Three Cents Worth. And I´ve said my say.


God Save The Republic

David Hamel said...

Mr. Vanderboegh:

Ha! You're a stubborn, grumpy old fart, and it doesn't matter what you say, I will continue to like and respect you (and read your stuff and buy your book[s]!)

You may be a very stubborn implacable foe (and a very real threat) to your enemies, but I'm convinced that you have a heart of gold, and would put yourself out (probably for the ten thousandth time) to help some random stranger in need.

If you hadn't been so stubborn, you wouldn't have built up your character and created those very unique qualities and consequential values in these most "interesting times."

You've also shown the intellectual honesty and strength of character to seriously question and ultimately completely change your belief structure.

I've learned it's what people do that shows their true character, not what they say, whether for better or worse.

Say whatever you want Sir, but in my books, you've already been tried, tested and proven under fire.

May G_d bless you and your loved ones!


Anonymous said...

You may remember Sylvester McMonkey McBean. He exploited the artificial distinction between Plain-bellied Sneetches and their social betters--the Star-bellied Sneetche--to his own financial betterment(Jist makin' a profit, eh Tom?). Sylvester McMonkey McBean is currently promoting his new book, "Feed the McMonkey" at area patriot rallies by exploiting a similar distinction between white-hatted patriots (us) and our back-hatted superiors (people like him). If you see someone matching this description, keep a close watch on your wallet.

"Yes, this huckster, who took The Sneetches for all they were worth has it all going for him. A sweet ride to rival Marvin K Mooney’s Crunk Car, tons of dough, a hat* a hipster would kill for, and his name is SYLVESTER McMONKEY McBEAN. Let’s hope he has a stick of proper length to beat the ladies off with, (would his job as a fix-it-up-chappie deter the ladies? Were you to ask they’d probably just roll over on their pile of cash and have the butler escort you out.)"

* Shouldn't it be black? :^]


Anonymous said...

You continue writing and we'll continue reading. As for allies, I don't need, Nazis or socialists. They are the enemy. I find value where I find it and I find it most in the American Constitution and bill of rights.

Anonymous said...

Could some one explain to a poor dumb redneck such as myself just what the definition of 'Nazi' is in this context?
It might help me get a handle on the current shooting match.


-Bubba Man (one of the Bubbas of the Apocalypse)

Bad Cyborg said...

You are a better man than I am, Dutchman. I've read his online stuff and while there are nuggets of truth in what he writes it's imbedded a in WHOLE lotta shit! Even a blind squirrel with a head cold finds a nut now and again. I would NOT trust him to guard my flank. Even if his life depended on it! Folks like Baugh have a tendency to engineer separate arrangements that protect them while giving others the shaft (can you spell NRA and Disclose Act?).

Bad Cyborg X

MamaLiberty said...

Are you guys feeding a troll in Baugh? Why don't we let him find his own groceries and get back to the work that needs doing?

tjbbpgobIII said...

Amen, Mama Liberty.